The Flames' handling/plan for Zayne Parekh..

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by flambers

Flames brass has destroyed his confidence

Disagree. He looked just fine at the world juniors confidence wise. He needs to adjust to playing against men.

[indes]

They just need to let him go play. He's going to make mistakes, he's going to get beat up. I think a lot of it comes from needing to be competitive and needing to play mistake free hockey (this is what we've heard from a lot of pundits about the flames) to win games. He's not Schaefer but he's not far off from where Hughes was when he started. If they want to wait until he's a responsible player it will never happen, he needs to spread his wings, make his mistakes and learn on the job.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flambers

Flames brass has destroyed his confidence

Its going to take a few games at AHL to try to get him settled

However if the plan is to have him only get minutes around the powerplay

That's a terrible plan

He should have been sent to junior

How exactly did Flames brass do this?

[Funkhouser]

He is clearly not ready.

The NHL is not a developmental league and playing him on the Flames is more likely to hurt him than help him.

Maybe someone else is more knowledgeable, but is it not feasible for the Flames to loan him to a club in the SHL or Swiss league in order to play against men?

If not I am sending him back to Junior. If it is 'too late' as per OHL rules, then I am putting him in the AHL and dealing with the consequences. Let the CHL take us to court.

[PeteMoss]

People just need to get used to the fact he's going to look bad a fair bit but his talent will hopefully outweigh the bad. People were complaining about his play in the world juniors where we put up more points than any other Canadian defenseman in history and was one the team's best player.

He's not a conventional player. If you keep trying to judge him as that - he's never going to meet your expectations. Lots of you seem to be missing what Wilson is saying.

[fotze2]

I think he's just going to find it at some point. Like Gio before Russia and after. Is this the same player?

I've found over the years that sometimes overcoaching is worse for some personalities. If you are thoughtful and conscientious, you heed the coaches instructions but then those thousand snap decisions you need to make are delayed slightly by second guessing them. Thats where Huska needs to be on his A Game. One size does not fit all.

I actually leave my kids games when I see him thinking too much, he becomes terrible. Coach instructs all these details he is trying to process in game in real time. If he has nothing to lose he becomes great. Get embarrassed by coach, paralyzes some people.

We all want him to be something that maybe he isn't? Maybe he is Bouchard?

I think he has plenty of confidence, just have to hone it and I really have no skill to knnow how that is best accomplished.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

If he fails it’s the flames fault. If he succeeds it’s despite the flames efforts to ruin him.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by flambers

Flames brass has destroyed his confidence

Its going to take a few games at AHL to try to get him settled

However if the plan is to have him only get minutes around the powerplay

That's a terrible plan

He should have been sent to junior

How did the Flames Brass destroy his confidence?

They gave him opportunities to get his feet wet in a sheltered role while adjusting to a massive jump in play.

[Robbob]

I think the timing of the injury and then the juniors I think worked out. Where I think it is getting a bit grey is this stretch we are in now. You have 2 weeks conditioning stint with the wranglers that ends just before the Olympics. Not the worst because all players are off.

After the Olympics they need to make a choice to play him in the NHL. With all the players sitting around it is kind of like a reset and training camp. At that point there are 5 games left before the trade deadline and about 4 weeks likely left in the Saginaw season (their last game is March 21st and they are not going to the playoffs).

I think the Flames have 2 options, play him in the NHL the rest of the way, or keep him up until Saginaw is done and then send him to the Wranglers for a remainder of the wrangler season, which is about 9 regular season games plus playoffs. Although Wranglers are sitting outside the playoffs so need to get things together to even have a post season.

[PepsiFree]

Probably wouldn’t hurt to give him more than 11 games to determine whether there’s a problem somewhere or it’s just more time required.

I do think he’s always going to face a vocal minority that doesn’t like his attitude, doesn’t think he plays the right way, doesn’t think he’s good enough/ready.

[lazypucker]

I just wish the Flames don't F up another highly-touted prospect...

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I think the timing of the injury and then the juniors I think worked out. Where I think it is getting a bit grey is this stretch we are in now. You have 2 weeks conditioning stint with the wranglers that ends just before the Olympics. Not the worst because all players are off.

After the Olympics they need to make a choice to play him in the NHL. With all the players sitting around it is kind of like a reset and training camp. At that point there are 5 games left before the trade deadline and about 4 weeks likely left in the Saginaw season (their last game is March 21st and they are not going to the playoffs).

I think the Flames have 2 options, play him in the NHL the rest of the way, or keep him up until Saginaw is done and then send him to the Wranglers for a remainder of the wrangler season, which is about 9 regular season games plus playoffs. Although Wranglers are sitting outside the playoffs so need to get things together to even have a post season.

Going back to the CHL should be fully off the table for sure. Organizationally, you made the choice to keep him up here in September - there's nothing left for him to prove or learn at that level. We even had that confirmed by his play at the WJC. The AHL later in the year makes sense, but only if he's really struggling as a Flame.

The Flames need to stop tip toeing around this and get him into the NHL line up moving forward. They made the right move sending him to the WJC and now the AHL, but now that he's hopefully got some confidence back and can come in in game shape it is time to let him play. There are many, many ways to accomplish this from easing him back in as a 7th and PP QB, playing him in only home games on a regular pairing where they can really control his starts, or just dressing him as a regular and letting him rip.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

How did the Flames Brass destroy his confidence?

They gave him opportunities to get his feet wet in a sheltered role while adjusting to a massive jump in play.

Send him to Juniors

Keeping him around and not playing him is a terrible idea

I will be curious once his AHL conditioning is over

Will they play him or will he be in and out of the lineup for the rest of the year

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

I just wish the Flames don't F up another highly-touted prospect...

Don't worry, we will trade him for a second and he'll win a Smythe somewhere else.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

How did the Flames Brass destroy his confidence?

They gave him opportunities to get his feet wet in a sheltered role while adjusting to a massive jump in play.

Sure the same batch of game where the whole team struggled....

Sitting him and not playing the rookie will create issues with his confidence

If he stays they need to play him not 5 to 6 minutes a game either

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flambers

Send him to Juniors

Keeping him around and not playing him is a terrible idea

I will be curious once his AHL conditioning is over

Will they play him or will he be in and out of the lineup for the rest of the year

This does not answer the question - how did the Flames “destroy his confidence”?

How do you even know his confidence dropped at all?

[flambers]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

This does not answer the question - how did the Flames “destroy his confidence”?

How do you even know his confidence dropped at all?

Again listen to the interviews clearly the player lost his confidence.

Edit listen to the video in the very first post

[DJones]

Flames didn't have much choice in the matter. Team was horrible when he played. He gets hurt. The sent him to WC, he gets hurt. They gave him as much time as they could in the AHL.

Ideally he was in the AHL all year but that wasn't allowed. With Andersson gone our third pairing should get some quality TOI so just play him in a protected role for the rest of the year and sneak him some steriods or something haha

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flambers

Again listen to the interviews clearly the player lost his confidence.

Flames have miss judged that he is ready for NHL

If you listen to the interviews, he has a ton of confidence. He just knows he has work to do.

His confidence was so destroyed he was calling his shots at the world juniors.

He doesn’t need to be bubble wrapped, and he has zero to learn in junior.

[indes]

The guy is even through 11 games as a rookie and only an inch shorter and 6lbs lighter than Matthew Schaefer. He's bigger than Quinn Hughes is and absolutely he needs to add some strength but it's not like he's undersized. You can say the NHL isn't a development league but you can't learn to play in the NHL, not in the NHL. Look at Celebrini (or literally any NHL player), has he not developed? He's learning as he goes and he's getting better and better. There are also a lot of players who have figured out the AHL and can never put it together in the NHL so I don't think playing in the AHL is a silver bullet either.