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Old 09-15-2025, 02:24 PM   #21
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Keenan was the coach and that Ramholt one shift then benched him. Adrian Aucoin and Rhett Warrener were both out with injuries and we were already thin, Keenan probably didn't want to play the kid as it is. David was in the lineup and only played five minutes. Anders Erikson almost played 30 minutes in a shocking loss.

Ramholt's relationship soured with the Flames when he decided to go back to Switzerland instead of continuing in North America after one year in the QMJHL.
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Old 09-15-2025, 02:50 PM   #22
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As people continue poking holes in Darryl Sutter’s legacy...

The pettiness of Darryl Sutter really knew no bounds.

https://www.nhl.com/player/tim-ramholt-8470632
Are "people' in fact continuing to do this? It is news to me.
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Bergeron and Webber went within a few picks of Ramholt, if we took either of those players we might have an extra banner hanging from the Dome roof.
We picked Dion in the first round, why not Weber in round two? Red Deer guy and Kelowna guy... too similar? Wanted a different type of defenseman?
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Old 09-15-2025, 03:09 PM   #24
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What the hell does this have to do with Sutter. Sutter selected him, and called him up. If anything it was Keenan being petty. It's not like Marr st.louis who went on to win a bunch of awards after the Flames dumped him. Absolute bush league thread throwing shade at a Flames legend.
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Where's the thread where we discuss Andrei Medvedev's favourite pizza?
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Will we have a Kyle Greentree thread tomorrow?
and a John Ramage thread the day after that? at least there some more interest in that story.
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George W Bush was President during these events. Facebook was an exclusive club for people with college emails. Twitter was a texting service. iPhone didn't exist yet. This past summer's draft class was just being born. Some of us were still teenagers

Also for perspective fans in their 20s now don't even remember the Feaster and Burke era drama like the Ryan O'Reilly fiasco and Weisbrod nonsense.
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Old 09-15-2025, 04:02 PM   #28
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The Swiss league is quite lucrative, and living in Switzerland means you're experiencing one of the best quality of life countries on earth.

(If you haven't been, I recommend it)

So, you can pull 6 figures doing that, or play in Lowell, Omaha, or Quad Cities for five figures. And maybe get shot, and 100% have to deal with American yokels.

That comparison is perhaps why bubble Swiss prospects are exactly that... bubble.

Don't get me started on Reto Berra!
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I still can't believe he gave away Lydman for nothing.
That was a head scratcher. Wonder if we regret Rasmus going, have a feeling he’s just a good guy to have around, and will thrive into his later years.
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Now Tim Erixon is a different story, so glad his NHL career was short.
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That was a head scratcher. Wonder if we regret Rasmus going, have a feeling he’s just a good guy to have around, and will thrive into his later years.
They seem to understand Rasmus has value though.
Lydman I think was traded for a 3rd.
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Old 09-15-2025, 04:42 PM   #33
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I still can't believe he gave away Lydman for nothing.
This one led me down a rabbit hole as I always had fond memories of Lydman aka LOOD-man.

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All things considered, this thread title is terrible
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I think Cliff Fletcher gave Carl Mokosak a raw deal.
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As people continue poking holes in Darryl Sutter’s legacy, I thought it’d be fitting to revisit one of the more head-scratching stories from his tenure: our 2003 2nd-round pick (39th overall), Tim Ramholt.

Sutter rarely valued 2nd-rounders, so there was genuine excitement about finally holding onto one and watching Ramholt’s development. Fast-forward to the 2007–08 season - Tim finally gets the call to play his first NHL game.

What happens? He gets a single shift. One. He’s out there for a goal against, and that’s it. Sutter, in all his wisdom, decides that’s enough to close the book. No second shift. No chance to redeem himself. No shot to prove he belonged.

That one shift, one minus, and it was over. Tim Ramholt never played another NHL game.

I can’t imagine how crushing that must have felt for him. And frankly, it’s a brutal look for the Flames. Whatever you think of Ramholt’s upside, burying a young player like that after literally one shift just reeks of Sutter’s trademark stubbornness.

The pettiness of Darryl Sutter really knew no bounds.

https://www.nhl.com/player/tim-ramholt-8470632
Probably time to edit the title or at the very least own up to the mistake.
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Probably time to edit the title or at the very least own up to the mistake.
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If a guy only gets one NHL game it is impossible to pin it all on a single coach.
I haven’t had even one NHL game. It’s not Sutter’s pettiness at fault. It’s because I’m a terrible hockey player.
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Where's the thread where we discuss Andrei Medvedev's favourite pizza?
Check the off topic
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Where's the thread where we discuss Andrei Medvedev's favourite pizza?
Andrei Zyuzin once rented a movie from the Westhills Blockbuster when I worked there in 2007.
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