View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
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Basha, Andrew
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4.25% |
Battaglia, Jacob
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2.32% |
Bell, Parker
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Chechelev, Daniil
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Cicek, Nick
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Ciona, Lucas
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Grushnikov, Artyom
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Honzek, Sam
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22.39% |
Hoskin, Trevor
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Hurtig, Axel
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Jamieson, Eric
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0.39% |
Jurmo, Joni
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Kerins, Rory
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0.39% |
King, Carter
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Kuznetsov, Yan
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Laing, Hunter
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Lane, Aidan
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Leander, Jakob
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Lipinski, Jaden
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Littler, Cade
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Matveiko, Yan
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Mews, Henry
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6.56% |
Misa, Luke
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Morin, Étienne
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2.32% |
Morton, Sam
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0.39% |
Phillips, Mace'o
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Poirier, Jeremie
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Potter, Cullen
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54.44% |
Say, Owen
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Sergeev, Arseni
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Solovyov, Ilya
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0.39% |
Stockselius, Theo
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Strömgren, William
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0.39% |
Suniev, Aydar
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5.79% |
Wyttenbach, Ethan
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Yegorov, Yegor
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Zarubin, Kirill
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07-12-2025, 09:40 AM
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#21
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He was ranked higher than Reschny by some so he does appear to be great value at 32 and having the best wheels in the draft never hurts as it's been a while since the Flames have had a burner in the lineup.
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Pospisil is like the fourth fastest player in the league lol
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07-12-2025, 09:40 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Yanda
Honzek should be above Suniev and Stromgren, but not Basha/Battaglia/Mews.. hope people read everyones comments for next round because Honzek shouldnt be getting these votes right now.
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Bader's model has Suniev with a strong D2 NHLe, whereas Honzek has been trending down ever since he was drafted. I'm not even sure I'd put Honzek ahead of Suniev.
Source: www.hockeyprospecting.com
At least right now, I don't see Honzek as trending very well. I also didn't like the pick at the time though, so I've got a bias on that front. Pains me that Axel Sandin-Pellika and Colby Barlow (who I really wanted) went directly after the Flames pick. I think the Honzek pick happened because it wasn't really Conroy with his feet under him yet.
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07-12-2025, 09:59 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Singapore
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I went with Potter but I'm also high on Morin. I'm still mainly indexing on ceiling.
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07-12-2025, 10:41 AM
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#25
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Honzek is getting short shrift around here, largely based on his production while dealing with injuries. Guy still has the most NHL frame and arguably the best two way game of any of the remaining options. I see him as a bigger Backlund. Will take some time to develop, as Backlund did, but has the potential to be a Selke calibre middle six winger. Backlund had injury problems after the Flames drafted him, too, but he figured things out.
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07-12-2025, 10:58 AM
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#26
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Potter for the 4th time
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07-12-2025, 11:24 AM
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#27
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Honzek is getting short shrift around here, largely based on his production while dealing with injuries. Guy still has the most NHL frame and arguably the best two way game of any of the remaining options. I see him as a bigger Backlund. Will take some time to develop, as Backlund did, but has the potential to be a Selke calibre middle six winger. Backlund had injury problems after the Flames drafted him, too, but he figured things out.
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Backlund? they dont even play the same position...
Honzek is a replaceable bottom 6 forward.. we got guys like Basha and Battalgia that could be impact forwards. I think your way off base here.. Selke caliber.. its not a good take.
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07-12-2025, 11:33 AM
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#28
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I think some fans are reaching on Honzek hoping not to be proven wrong that it wasnt a great pick by Conroy. He's nothing special, we have tons of left wings and his season last year wasnt spectacular.
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07-12-2025, 11:49 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Went with Potter as the obvious choice.
Next round would be interesting. Could see many of the remaining guys getting votes. Honzek, Mews, Basha, Battaglia
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07-12-2025, 12:39 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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I went Basha with a late change of mind,
yes Potter was ranked by some ahead of our pick at 18 but on the main I perceived him as a late 1st that I would have been (and was) happy with our 2nd 1st. in the same way I perceived Basha as a great option for our late 1st last year- so I'm glad that worked out
I'd been downgrading Basha due to his partially lost season but guess decided to flip it around and ponder how much might the injury have been holding him back- anyhow Potter will probably advance here so I'll be voting Basha for a bit yet (I think both could be 2nd line fixtures on this team in the future, and an outside chance one might pop even higher- though not sure which)
I think those 2 , Battaglia and Morin are my top 8, then Mews and Honzek (seems weird to say that about a dman with elite offensive counting stats and a former first rounder that has already played NHL games but it's just what my gut is telling me)
Suniev is in the next 5 for me- that's for another time
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07-12-2025, 12:41 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Trying to remember, who were some of the guys that Sandman and co wanted us to pick instead of Honzek at the time?
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07-12-2025, 12:43 PM
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#32
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by Yanda
Backlund? they dont even play the same position...
Honzek is a replaceable bottom 6 forward.. we got guys like Basha and Battalgia that could be impact forwards. I think your way off base here.. Selke caliber.. its not a good take.
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You're selling Honzek short. He almost made the team right out of camp last year and that was coming direct out of juniors. He already had the frame to play in the NHL, injuries just got in the way. He's also a smart player with soft hands, at 6'4" you really need to be ignoring pretty much every trend there is in hockey to not still see a lot of potential here. I also think he is smart enough to still potentially play center, but that is really up to the Flames development team to figure out. Once healthy I think we'll see a point-per-game player in the AHL, with potential for Honzek to reach 50pts as a two way forward at the NHL level. To already have written Honzek off as replacement level after one year in the pros is the real bad take here.
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07-12-2025, 12:51 PM
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#33
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Needs More Cowbell
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Originally Posted by Yanda
I think some fans are reaching on Honzek hoping not to be proven wrong that it wasnt a great pick by Conroy. He's nothing special, we have tons of left wings and his season last year wasnt spectacular.
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This was his first pro season, he was 19 and he got hurt to start the season and missed a bunch of games.
You probably wrote off Kerins, too. Ah, he got sent down to the ECHL. Bust.
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07-12-2025, 12:53 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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The next three are Mews, Potter and Basha for me. The order pretty interchangable.
I do like Honzek, just not as much as I like those three
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07-12-2025, 12:59 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Honzek is getting short shrift around here, largely based on his production while dealing with injuries. Guy still has the most NHL frame and arguably the best two way game of any of the remaining options. I see him as a bigger Backlund. Will take some time to develop, as Backlund did, but has the potential to be a Selke calibre middle six winger. Backlund had injury problems after the Flames drafted him, too, but he figured things out.
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That’s fine, however, it’s more of the fact we have other prospects who have played better in their D+1 that I have ranked over him. I think he’s a prospect that can be ranked 11/12 here on the boards but can easily be back to top 5 after a solid year. I still have him over Basha, who doesn’t get the nod in my top 10 because of injuries.
Some vote heavy based on potential, I do too but I also rank at how they’re progressing and if they’re making process to hit that potential. It’s hard for me to rank someone over the other if they had an injury-riddled season. For example, I would have Battaglia and Mews chosen over Basha.
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07-12-2025, 01:18 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Honzek is getting short shrift around here, largely based on his production while dealing with injuries. Guy still has the most NHL frame and arguably the best two way game of any of the remaining options. I see him as a bigger Backlund. Will take some time to develop, as Backlund did, but has the potential to be a Selke calibre middle six winger. Backlund had injury problems after the Flames drafted him, too, but he figured things out.
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Production and Injuries are two of the most justifiably significant factors that can be used to evaluate prospects.
And he's tall but I wouldn't say he has an NHL frame. 5'10" Reschny is almost the same weight as him.
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07-12-2025, 01:26 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FBI
Trying to remember, who were some of the guys that Sandman and co wanted us to pick instead of Honzek at the time?
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Pretty sure they were Ritchie, Musty and Moore. Danielson was a guy Sandman really wanted us to draft, but he went to DET way before our pick.
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07-12-2025, 01:27 PM
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#38
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
That’s fine, however, it’s more of the fact we have other prospects who have played better in their D+1 that I have ranked over him. I think he’s a prospect that can be ranked 11/12 here on the boards but can easily be back to top 5 after a solid year. I still have him over Basha, who doesn’t get the nod in my top 10 because of injuries.
Some vote heavy based on potential, I do too but I also rank at how they’re progressing and if they’re making process to hit that potential. It’s hard for me to rank someone over the other if they had an injury-riddled season. For example, I would have Battaglia and Mews chosen over Basha.
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None of the guys you mentioned have transitioned to the pros yet. So comparing a 19 year old playing his first year in the pros with an injury with guys who are still playing their d+ years in juniors and just basing it on raw production seems flawed.
Honzek's draft peers, Morin and Suniev, have not yet made the pros. While both are progressing nicely and will hopefully lock up roles on the Wranglers next season. They'll still be making the transition to pros as 20 year olds as opposed to 19 year olds.
Guess what I'm saying is outside a top 5-10 pick, a 19 year old taking time to adjust to the pros is expected and shouldn't be heavily penalized. Honzek's injuries are a concern. But that, too, is par for the course for a young player who is still growing / getting stronger.
In Honzek's draft class, Barlow was under a point-per-game this season in juniors but had a strong postseason. Sale at 19 has made the pros and has put up similar production to Honzek.
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07-12-2025, 01:30 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by cannon7
None of the guys you mentioned have transitioned to the pros yet. So comparing a 19 year old playing his first year in the pros with an injury with guys who are still playing their d+ years in juniors and just basing it on raw production seems flawed.
Honzek's draft peers, Morin and Suniev, have not yet made the pros. While both are progressing nicely and will hopefully lock up roles on the Wranglers next season. They'll still be making the transition to pros as 20 year olds as opposed to 19 year olds.
Guess what I'm saying is outside a top 5-10 pick, a 19 year old taking time to adjust to the pros is expected and shouldn't be heavily penalized. Honzek's injuries are a concern. But that, too, is par for the course for a young player who is still growing / getting stronger.
In Honzek's draft class, Barlow was under a point-per-game this season in juniors but had a strong postseason. Sale at 19 has made the pros and has put up similar production to Honzek.
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Honzek turns 21 in November. He was always a project, and unfortunately, he is not steadily progressing as we hoped. Injuries have been a concern thus far.
I think we can all agree we wish nothing but the best for him. Jankowski took a while to progress. I think that is a very good comparable. Honzek looked OK in the pros, but he still needs some definite seasoning. A full season in the AHL and perhaps a callup here and there would do wonders. I don't think he's first callup this season though. We've got other guys that are knocking on the door, like Kerins and Stromgren.
As for these rankings, even though some are playing in lesser leagues, they are still playing better than Honzek in their respective leagues. I want Honzek to succeed as much as anyone else out there, but he is NOT in my top 10 on my personal list.
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07-12-2025, 02:03 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Battaglia for me. He's got everything for the NHL except skating, and that can be improved in most cases. He's performance and progression in both regular season and playoff OHL should give everyone confidence. He's gonna be a good one.
I see now that everyone is voting Potter here, and that's fine. I think it's a good selection. I just like Battaglia a little more.
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