[Rumour] Vegas tried and failed to acquire Rasmus Andersson this week

[dino7c]

Kind of a dumb report...I bet lots of teams "tried"

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kind of a dumb report...I bet lots of teams "tried"

Yeah this is a bit weird to see. We've seen Friedman report such things after the player has been moved...but Andersson is still out there and available.

[868904]

Try harder

[Dion]

I have to think they were the kind of offers where Conroy said thanks but no thanks.

[EVERLAST]

This is a media driven BS oh we were close . Judas Priest we've heard this so many times and I doubt it applies to Craig this time .

Tre used to push this narrative out alot , what previous GM didn't in Calgary?

Do we have short memories here or what.

And.....what do we want back? They're pretty high on their semi recent cup win and acting like ENG sometimes . Get over yourself LV Golden Shower. Who cares.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Royle9

More than a few teams tried.
Nobody had anything worth taking.. yet.

Any idea what Conroy is looking for that would make him make the trade? Is it as simple as this:

1st round pick
2nd round pick
2nd round pick
B-level prospect

[Royle9]

I think a lot of the hang up was that Craig wanted another 1st in 2026/2027 and a lot of teams didn’t have that or were concerned about trading that pick right now.

They wanted to move up for Misa/Frondel/Martin with the priority in that order.
When nobody wanted to dance after dangling those picks and saying they would, CGY pivoted to next year(s) picks.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think a lot of the hang up was that Craig wanted another 1st in 2026/2027 and a lot of teams didn’t have that or were concerned about trading that pick right now.

They wanted to move up for Misa/Frondel/Martin with the priority in that order.
When nobody wanted to dance after dangling those picks and saying they would, CGY pivoted to next year(s) picks.

Which makes sense. Most teams won’t want to part with future picks of that significance unless they’re hyper aggressive (Vegas) or hyper stupid (Treliving), and Treliving’s dumbass doesn’t have a pick until 2028 and Vegas is 2027 but don’t have an awful lot to go alongside that ‘27.

Every other team that “wants to get better” are your typical NHL team, meaning risk averse and won’t want to deal those picks until they get in season and can read the room and see if it’s worth moving those picks or not.

…if we go into the season with Andersson, I think it’s a fail - but I can also see why it’s happening.

I feel like Conroy thinking he could get up into that Misa/Frondell/Martin range on the back of Andersson is overrating the asset.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think a lot of the hang up was that Craig wanted another 1st in 2026/2027 and a lot of teams didn’t have that or were concerned about trading that pick right now.

They wanted to move up for Misa/Frondel/Martin with the priority in that order.
When nobody wanted to dance after dangling those picks and saying they would CGY pivoted to next year(s) picks.

Thanks Royle. Interesting. Perfectly reasonable for Conroy to ask for a 2026 first. Especially if the return is not including an A-level prospect. Good for him to hold off trading Andersson if teams are not willing to trade their 2026/2027 pick - it’s pretty automatic that the flames could get a 2026 first at the TDL so teams that want Andersson for a full season at a really low cap hit should pony up a first from that draft now. I would expect it to be top 10 protected to mitigate the risk for the acquiring team.

[Sled]

Conroy obviously has a clear picture of Raz's value. I applaud holding assets to maintain and grow value until it suits the Flames organization. We don't know what was offered or turned down. Thanks to the local insiders for taking the time out of their lives for sharing btw.

Is it a risk? It sure is. Is it calculated? It sure is. Nothing to distrust IMO thus far.

Honestly, Management for the Flames can do no right for some on this board.

Seriously, Calgary could have drafted a 17 year old ambidextrous player that is 6'1 and 180lbs of muscle with 100 points on their WHL championship team in the 5th round and half this board would do nothing but complain about the flaws.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Sled

Conroy obviously has a clear picture of Raz's value. I applaud holding assets to maintain and grow value until it suits the Flames organization. We don't know what was offered or turned down. Thanks to the local insiders for taking the time out of their lives for sharing btw.

Is it a risk? It sure is. Is it calculated? It sure is. Nothing to distrust IMO thus far.

Honestly, Management for the Flames can do no right for some on this board.

Seriously, Calgary could have drafted a 17 year old ambidextrous player that is 6'1 and 180lbs of muscle with 100 points on their WHL championship team in the 5th round and half this board would do nothing but complain about the flaws.

We've been hurt before. Many, many times. It takes a lot to scratch and claw even the slimmest moments of positivity out of a Flames fan.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I am not the least bit concerned. Conroy is right to sticking to his guns. When someone offers him what he considers fair value, he lets the other managers know that the asset will be moving, and to get their best and final offers on the table if interested. He won't budge until then. That's what he has done so far, so I doubt things change.


I also think everyone is just waiting on Ekblad to either be re-signed, or sign with a new team July 1st or after.. Once that domino falls, then I think we will see movement.

[Sled]

Originally Posted by Locke

We've been hurt before. Many, many times. It takes a lot to scratch and claw even the slimmest moments of positivity out of a Flames fan.

I get it, not New either!

I'm choosing to put faith in this group until proven wrong. Otherwise what's the point, be a contrarian in order to troll.

Not directed at you because I'm understanding of the mistrust.

However, I remember folks on this board pissed we "wasted" a 4th rounder on the smallest guy in the draft years ago.

[Freddy]

Conroy is dangling Rasmus out there and needs an overpay otherwise he plays for the Flames until deadline (sheltering Parekh for the bulk of his rookie season) and then he goes to the highest bidder who multiple teams have been coveting for over a year. Good way to get maximum value and still ice a competitive team.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Locke

It takes a lot to scratch and claw even the slimmest moments of positivity out of a Flames fan.

No, it really doesn’t. There’s lots to be positive about.

Have you considered antidepressants?

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I am not the least bit concerned. Conroy is right to sticking to his guns. When someone offers him what he considers fair value, he lets the other managers know that the asset will be moving, and to get their best and final offers on the table if interested. He won't budge until then. That's what he has done so far, so I doubt things change.


I also think everyone is just waiting on Ekblad to either be re-signed, or sign with a new team July 1st or after.. Once that domino falls, then I think we will see movement.

Which is ok…to an extent. But it’s similar to Burke not accepting a 3rd rounder for Cammaleri and ending up with nothing and him walking. It’s flawed thinking. If that’s all that’s on offer, you take it (in the Cammaleri case). There’s still some time with Andersson, so it’s a bit different and I also trust Conny but you can’t wait too long IMO.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Can't quote you Mightyfire:


It is not similar in any way to Burke not accepting a 3rd. Why? Because we have a fairly long record of how Conroy operates now, right? There have been a number of upcoming UFAs that Conroy had to deal with. How many UFAs of value has Conroy walked to market? Zero. He has also stated that allowing Gaudreau the option to walk was a mistake, and that it won't happen under his watch. This is all unfounded angst to me.


It is really no different than being worried about a huge earthquake hitting Calgary, or a huge hurricane magically going the opposite direction and jumping over the mountains and hitting Calgary. Those things don't happen here, so why would you worry about something that doesn't happen here? Hail, Tornadoes and Blizzards happen here - that's enough to worry about if you want to worry. So players wanting out for greener pastures, or going behind the scenes to pick their preferred destination at the cost of the return - that's the kind of stuff I worry about. Upcoming UFAs of value being walked to UFA? Not a chance with Conroy.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Mightyfire89

Which is ok…to an extent. But it’s similar to Burke not accepting a 3rd rounder for Cammaleri and ending up with nothing and him walking. It’s flawed thinking. If that’s all that’s on offer, you take it (in the Cammaleri case). There’s still some time with Andersson, so it’s a bit different and I also trust Conny but you can’t wait too long IMO.

If you take the ####ty offer, you will soon find that you only get ####ty offers. In a small community like the NHL, reputation matters.

[Goriders]

Guess they need to try harder

[sureLoss]

On the 32 thoughts podcast:

Teams not going to acquire Andersson for the acquisition cost unless they know he is going to sign him.

Andersson may not have a full NTC but he has a lot of power because he can say he won't sign

Vegas took a big run at him last week but couldn't get it done.

There was another team that thought they can get it done, but Andersson wouldn't extend at this time.

Don't think Vegas could do enough to get the player, but there were others who couldn't get a commitment from Andersson.

When Conroy says Andersson could start the season with the Flames, Friedman thinks it is because of that reason. (Essentially the teams that can pay the asking price for Andersson might not be the teams that he is willing to extend with right now)

The one benefit (of having Andersson start the season with Calgary) according to Friedman is that there is motivation for Andersson to have a big season but it is a gamble.