AI-driven coaching coming to NHL

[Shazam]

Well, it's more complicated than that, since the position of the players matter.

I think the issue boils down to the linesmen not wanting to lose their jobs to automation.

But what they could do is use a system that tracks on/offsides, but it's still up to a human to challenge. Then they could see what the system determined.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Great news is now we have a data point for pulling the goalie with 7 minutes left.

* it didn’t work

Hahahaha

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Shazam

You don't need AI to determine offsides. It's not a hugely complicated problem.

Actually, it is a problem. A quick internet search shows that there was 68 Offside challenges last season with a 90% overturned rate. Each of those challenges is a waste of time for the fans watching the game and a real point of frustration if it results in a goal being called back over a blown offside call.

If automating offsides reduces those coaches challenges to zero, then that is a pretty big win for the league.

Once offsides are automated, it will be easy to start in on automating icing the puck, high-sticks, puck out of play, etc. and essentially make linesmen obsolete and move the NHL to having 4 referees on the ice. Then, threaten to automate the referee jobs too if they cannot do a better job of objectively calling the games.

Eventually referees could just be there to drop pucks for faceoffs, reset nets, breakup scrums, and walk players off the ice for penalties called by the AI.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by manwiches

Everybody gets all butt hurt and offended about AI because they think it's taking away work, but they don't realize that it gets you to the 80% of the way, but then one needs to apply the human element and bring it to the finish line the rest of the 20%. It's only as smart as the person analyzing it.

For a little while longer anyway. AI models learn from you more than you learn from them. That's why most of the agents are free or negligible cost.

In 5-10 years we won't need to coach our kid's teams. We'll just be free to watch them play and leave strategy and coaching to the experts.

In individual sports like cycling, robo coaches for amateur athletes are already quite popular.

That will come out pro sports eventually too - probably start with off season training plans and adapting them as things go to plan/don't go to plan. Maybe there will be an AI assistant in a few years. Like a video coach on steroids.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Actually, it is a problem. A quick internet search shows that there was 68 Offside challenges last season with a 90% overturned rate. Each of those challenges is a waste of time for the fans watching the game and a real point of frustration if it results in a goal being called back over a blown offside call.

I am referring to it as a programming problem. It is not a difficult programming problem.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Shazam

I am referring to it as a programming problem. It is not a difficult programming problem.

Oh, well then, I agree with you.

They should get it done already and improve their on-ice product.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Robot Referees are next.

It would be simple to replace Rosie's wheels with a blade.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Great news is now we have a data point for pulling the goalie with 7 minutes left.

* it didn’t work

Hahahaha

If an AI coach had McDrai's defensive metrics, it would never have pulled the goalie.

Instead, it would have instructed the all 5-players to simultaneously flop on the ice like dead fish for their entire shift in the attempt to draw a penalty. With the FLA's pests (Tkachuk, Marchand) and Bennett; and the referee'ing history of gifting the Oilers late power plays, I bet the data is there showing that's the way for the Oilers to score.

[PuckSlap]

More and more people are using Ai instead of searching though Google or other search engines. Its already more reliable and isn't (currently) filled with advertising.

Google is absolute trash. Advertising, SEO, affiliate sites, shadow banning and censorship killed it. AI, in one form or another, is the way of the future, in regards to information.

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[Locke]

Welcome your new Coaching Overlords! And he comes with a shoulder-mounted laser! But he does require a fairly steady stream of input.



He also comes with a fairly snazzy yet inexplicable Cowboy hat.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

For a little while longer anyway. AI models learn from you more than you learn from them. That's why most of the agents are free or negligible cost.

In 5-10 years we won't need to coach our kid's teams. We'll just be free to watch them play and leave strategy and coaching to the experts.

In individual sports like cycling, robo coaches for amateur athletes are already quite popular.

That will come out pro sports eventually too - probably start with off season training plans and adapting them as things go to plan/don't go to plan. Maybe there will be an AI assistant in a few years. Like a video coach on steroids.

Yep. It's amazing to be honest. I created an AI agent that I started building at Christmas for my son, for his off season program. He asked me about all these summer/off season things, and I didn't like the price, so I deep researched and found a ton of resources that I procured to create a 90 day program for him, with the flagship feature being an AI agent he can pretty much talk to daily, to discuss his pre and post physical and mental well being, and relay advice or tailor the program appropriately. All this, and I got AI to help me build an app he uses through all this. I also can monitor all his status and give suggestions also.

It's utterly mind blowing what it's been able to do for him. I created an offseason plan manually last summer, and it was maddeningly frustrating.
That being said, i had to constantly babysit it during the creation. What i'd equate it to, is I was the Project Manager of this project, and gave AI the parameters and had to constantly check it, tailor it, and ultimately bring it to the finish line myself. But the simple fact is, it took 80-90% of the work off my plate. I'd only need to spend 45-60 min a night for 3 months to build it the way i wanted.

If i'm doing this, i can guarantee it's being used elsewhere for sure.

[EVERLAST]

AI regardless won't ever convince me that ENG isn't anything other than no good.

I hope they keep the knob as HC ,gluegun, Coffey and the other real men of genius ( sponsored by Bud) behind the bench because in case you didn't know they know something about winning.

On another note

Can AI please realign the playoff format ASAP because if I watch another Stanley cup playoff format regurgitation at the abortional level we've been witnessing the last i don't know ?... 20 years imma lose my s

Seriously NHL needs something new ,,, shiny and exciting instead of the dead horse they've been re murdering for far too long.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Will mcdavid and the AI bot see eye to eye when it reduces his ice time?

[rage2]

Originally Posted by manwiches

I coach my son's hockey and soccer teams. I used AI all last season to help me build out practice plans. I analyze how the practices go, and then next practice, I tell AI what worked and what didn't, and what i want it to focus on. I have a built in resource library it pulls from from various sources online and what I have downloaded and uploaded into it's resource library that is calls on and references.

Quite honestly, it's taken so much of the grunt work that I normally would do manually.

Everybody gets all butt hurt and offended about AI because they think it's taking away work, but they don't realize that it gets you to the 80% of the way, but then one needs to apply the human element and bring it to the finish line the rest of the 20%. It's only as smart as the person analyzing it.

I thought I was ahead of the curve doing this for my kids too. I collect and break down advanced stats for our teams and our opponents. Feed all that data to AI to help create line up matches against the opposing team, with reasoning as to why so we can double check it makes sense. Glad to see so many embracing AI as a helpful tool to be more productive and effective.

It’s great for a hack like me, will be curious to see how effective it is at the pro level.

[Finger Cookin]

I don't know what to tell you. It turns out the AI was hallucinating when it told us to pull the goalie with 15 minutes to go in the 1st.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Will mcdavid and the AI bot see eye to eye when it reduces his ice time?

[McG]

Hmmm…just got the ai report about mavi and pissy.

And I quote;

“Play these two players together for all 60 minutes. They can rest when the other team is attacking by coasting back. Hire more Mavi friends and family.”

Have to admit that the ai is bang on!

[FBI]

Can AI tell us what the hell a distinct kicking motion is?
Or create a video package about the inconsistency of referees and no goal calls?

[joejoe3]

AI can review 03-04 SCF Gm6, and determine if that puck was in or not.
Shouldn’t need AI to tell us it was in.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

AI can review 03-04 SCF Gm6, and determine if that puck was in or not.
Shouldn’t need AI to tell us it was in.

AI would likely be trained on the data point where it was officially not in

That’s an issue