Rasmus Andersson watch — Will he stay or will he go?

[Caged Great]

The Flames need to trade off redundant players. Unfortunately two of them fall in this category, Blake Coleman and Rasmus Andersson.

Getting Joel Farabee made Coleman expendable as they both fill the same role, yet Farabee is 7 years younger.

Having both Parekh and Brzustewicz virtually ready for the NHL, some people are going to have to move on the blue line. Contextually, Andersson makes the most sense to go as Weegar is already under a long term contract and everyone else is either young themselves (Bahl) or expendable outright (Bean, Hanley, Miromanov, Pachal).

The Flames are not likely going to be competing next season for a playoff spot so it makes sense to open spot for young guys to come in and try to win a spot and maintain it and learn to be NHLers so they are ready for when they are going to be a playoff team.

Andersson is very much the right player, but the wrong time and situation. If he was 2 years younger he would be a perfect piece for the future. He's just not quite the right fit given the Flames timeline (likely starting to fully compete 3 years from now).

The Flames should target a depth C and a depth LHD with leadership skills in trade/free agency to replace the leadership skills that would be leaving with those departures. Probably a bigger Defensive D-man like Oleksiak potentially.

Realistically, the Flames D core next year should be

Weegar-one of the D we have.
Bahl-Parekh
Vet D-Brzustewicz

[Calgary4LIfe]

I didn't hear: "I want to be back". I heard "I loved it here" and "I will think about it". Leaving your options open behind closed doors is one thing, but to leave them open in public is another. Of course he is known for being open and honest, and he may not really know, but at the same time, it was far from a definite "i want to be here".


I think he is gone, and it will probably work out best for him and the Flames.

[Badgers Nose]

All this talk of red light specials on Anderssons ($6M AAV) has me wanting to keep him.

Probably a pipe dream, but how many millions do you need?

Maybe the AVV is this low and length is longer (7-8), with more of the contract paid up front, like we did with Kipper. As he ages his role and ice time reduce - but in five years what will an excellent 3rd pair D cost? Probably about what Ras would make on this hypothetical contract.

Weegar-Parekh
Bahl-Rasmus/Brzustewicz
Bean-Brzustewicz/Rasmus
Kuz - Pachal

(Trade Solo/Miro if we can)

Basically Brzustewicz competes for Pachal’s spot next season and Rasmus’ spot in 2-3 years.
Kuz and Solo compete to win Bean’s spot.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

My prediction is he ends up in Columbus. Hopefully the 11th overall pick is tied to that.

Yeah they could use a RS D but 11th OV is probably off the table for one year of Ras, Montreal could be an option as they could use a RS D big time.

[Groot]

No room for Andersson. Not next year, especially not in 3+ years. Thank you for your service and I'll cheer you on whereever you go.

Hanley - Weegar (610 mins this season with 57% xGF)
Bahl - Parekh
UFA - Brzustewicz
Pachal

Hanley a placeholder until a young LD takes the spot, same as the UFA spot.

Solovyov
Kuznetsov
Poirier
Grushnikov
Morin

All of the above could be making the jump to the NHL sooner than later.

[troutman]

I like how he hates Edmonton.

But if we can get a 1st and a prospect for him, do it!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I hope they trade him. Would love for a first rounder and a decent prospect. Also hope we can retain to get extra draft pick(s)

Not only do I think his next contract will eventually be an anchor, I think this trade will be similar to trading Markstrom. Opens the door for a young prospect to get more icetime.

At the start of the season I think he was our best player. But the last 20 games when he was playing horribly showed us we can get along without him.

Think you need to keep Hanley or upgrade him if Andersson walks. I think Miromanov’s days are numbered.

Weegar Hanley
Bahl Parekh
Bean Pachal
Solovyov

Kuznetsov
Brzustewicz

[Bonded]

I can’t wait for all the people who says he sucks to be underwhelmed by the trade return

[bluejays]

I know he was at his best at the start of the season, but on a team rebuilding, it would be nice to deal guys at their peak. Arguably nobody could've forecast such a steep fall off, but still, it's a rebuilding team that should philosophically be dealing guys when they don't have a future here and they're exceeding expectations. I wish they shopped him back then. Now we've be a bit strapped to get a 1st.

[TheScorpion]

Rasmus had a tough year but he's still a good-sized RHD in his late 20s who has scored 40+ points multiple times. He'll also be eligible to be traded with an extension in place. I think his value will be just fine.

[Enoch Root]

Player value doesn't oscillate the way fans think/suggest. GMs will know he was injured. And they will assess what they think he can do for their team, not what he did down the stretch for another team

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Player value doesn't oscillate the way fans think/suggest. GMs will know he was injured. And they will assess what they think he can do for their team, not what he did down the stretch for another team

Yeah, also if Andersson wasn’t on the third lowest scoring team in the league then his stats would be better. It probably showed he is more of a #3 than a #2 but I don’t think he was going to get a #2 trade value anyways. Players aren’t stocks lol

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I know he was at his best at the start of the season, but on a team rebuilding, it would be nice to deal guys at their peak. Arguably nobody could've forecast such a steep fall off, but still, it's a rebuilding team that should philosophically be dealing guys when they don't have a future here and they're exceeding expectations. I wish they shopped him back then. Now we've be a bit strapped to get a 1st.

lol Andersson’s trade value at minimum is the Hanifin return.

[Goriders]

If he wants to stay however. I would find a way to make it work. I have a feeling it’s not going to happen. But you never know. Backlund resigned here when it looked like he was gone. Maybe his family really like cgy. The talk about team culture is also a big draw.

It will be an interesting summer to say the least in Flames land. Lots of young players coming.

[metroneck]

I think he’s a great fit for San Jose. They need D, and they need veteran leadership.

Packaged up with Hunter B could net a nice return.

[Enoch Root]

why would we package Brzustewicz with him? Andersson is expendable because we have Parekh and Brzustewicz

[dammage79]

Yep. Conny said it himself yesterday. Or the day before, whichever exit day was, Weegar can easily go to the left side. So the D pairings could end up like this:

Weegar-Parekh/BRZ
Bahl- Parekh/BRZ
New LHD (UFA or Graduated from farm)-Pachal

That projects better to me than this year's d corps. Why?

Because the Flames lacked team play speed. Those two kids read and make fast plays. We need that in spades. To be clear, team speed I mean not skating speed, though that is a part of it, but quick, fast plays.

[metroneck]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

why would we package Brzustewicz with him? Andersson is expendable because we have Parekh and Brzustewicz

To maximize return from an organization that has a ton of young assets and high picks.

We need a top prospect C. Our D depth is the quickest path to obtain.

[The Cobra]

I think he is similar to Seth Jones, in that he was forced to play the toughest minutes vs. the other teams' best players, and he's not really suited to it.

He's likely a very good 3-4 dman, and if he is played like that, he'll have a much better year.

And Chicago got a first round pick and Knight in return , retaining about 2.5 M.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by metroneck

To maximize return from an organization that has a ton of young assets and high picks.

We need a top prospect C. Our D depth is the quickest path to obtain.

do you think they're going to give us a top C if we package some assets together?

because they're not