Nazem Fricken Kadri

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

but I bet you he will go down as one of the great players to put on a Calgary Flames sweater.

Where would you put him on the list of Flames' greats?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Where would you put him on the list of Flames' greats?

I don't have him top 20... Not sure how he would get there? A cup???? Have you seen our roster? I think some of you need to put the bong down this morning and go breathe some non recirculated air. Kadri will be 37 before we're even remotely competitive.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Where would you put him on the list of Flames' greats?

Today? probably somewhere in the top 35.
But given that he is under contract until 2029, he stands to move up the list quite a bit.

Kadri is currently 33 in PPG, and 46 in points.

If you wanted to zoom out and consider his resume, a Stanley cup 970 games ( and counting) and nearly 700 points, is a great career.


That said, I think that there are intangible considerations. He is a guy, who wants to win, wants to be a Flame, and is carrying a load on a team that by most metrics, is awful. Kadri is, for this era of the Flames, the best forward we have. People are going to remember him fondly.

[Monahammer]

Iginla
Kiprusoff
MacInnis
Gaudreau
Nieuwendyk
Fleury
McDonald
Monahan
Otto
Nilsson
Cammalleri
Langkow
Tanguay
Olli Jokinen
Phaneuf
Vernon
Gilmour
Roberts
Regehr
Giordano

Some of those are not necessarily in order, but all easily above Kadri.

Edit:

Housley
Mullen
Suter
Loob
Makarov
Reinhart

I have a soft spot for Huselius.

[TheIronMaiden]

for me when a franchise is 52 years old, there will be a long list of greats.

[TheIronMaiden]

I want to invent a metric called the "Hell Yeah Jersey Test"

When you see someone wearing a players jersey, do you think "Hell yeah"?

When I see a Phaneuf, or Markstrom Jersey out in the wild, I don't think Hell Yeah, even though there are, by counting stats two of the best players to play for the Flames.

That said, when I see a Hudler Jersey, or Glencross I think Hell Yeah, even though they are not better than Markstrom or Phaneuf.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I want to invent a metric called the "Hell Yeah Jersey Test"

When you see someone wearing a players jersey, do you think "Hell yeah"?

When I see a Phaneuf, or Markstrom Jersey out in the wild, I don't think Hell Yeah, even though there are, by counting stats two of the best players to play for the Flames.

That said, when I see a Hudler Jersey, or Glencross I think Hell Yeah, even though they are not better than Markstrom or Phaneuf.

I saw a guy with a Rene Bourque jersey last year. Is there a "yeesh" test?

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by troutman

Very frustrating player - does so many things the wrong way. He has been better in the second half and deserves credit for Huby’s improvement.

Partially. He also holds him back because he's a very sub-par passer for a first line player.

Huberdeau can whip impossible passes around at the drop of a hat, and if he played with someone that could link a second pass together, the points would be piling up significantly faster.

Huberdeau had to turn himself into a grinder in front of the net, because that's the only way you're getting a chance generated by Kadri.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I saw a guy with a Rene Bourque jersey last year. Is there a "yeesh" test?

100%, anyone wearing a Burtuzzi Jersey.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I want to invent a metric called the "Hell Yeah Jersey Test"

When you see someone wearing a players jersey, do you think "Hell yeah"?

When I see a Phaneuf, or Markstrom Jersey out in the wild, I don't think Hell Yeah, even though there are, by counting stats two of the best players to play for the Flames.

That said, when I see a Hudler Jersey, or Glencross I think Hell Yeah, even though they are not better than Markstrom or Phaneuf.

This almost warrants it's own thread.

I think the ultimate hell yeah for me would be a Stephane Yelle jersey.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I want to invent a metric called the "Hell Yeah Jersey Test"

When you see someone wearing a players jersey, do you think "Hell yeah"?

When I see a Phaneuf, or Markstrom Jersey out in the wild, I don't think Hell Yeah, even though there are, by counting stats two of the best players to play for the Flames.

That said, when I see a Hudler Jersey, or Glencross I think Hell Yeah, even though they are not better than Markstrom or Phaneuf.

I agree somewhat, though contest Phaneuf and Hudler's comparative rankings here lol.

Markstrom jersey is a puker. But a 06 Phaneuf jersey? Hell yeah!

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

This almost warrants it's own thread.

I think the ultimate hell yeah for me would be a Stephane Yelle jersey.

One of my biggest regrets in life, is finding one in a thrift store for $14 and not buying it. 1st world problems.

[Monahammer]

But for me, "All time great" would be a top 10 or so franchise player. Like, I think Langkow is a better overall Flame than Kadri thus far, but wouldn't call him an all-time great on the flames.

Ultimately it is extremely pedantic and totally a subjective qualification. So, it really doesn't matter if you or I think differently about what constitutes an all time great. Just an interesting thought process.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

But for me, "All time great" would be a top 10 or so franchise player. Like, I think Langkow is a better overall Flame than Kadri thus far, but wouldn't call him an all-time great on the flames.

Ultimately it is extremely pedantic and totally a subjective qualification. So, it really doesn't matter if you or I think differently about what constitutes an all time great. Just an interesting thought process.

Oh you're totally right. It's 100% subjective. To me you have Top 10, and then the broader category All Time Great, which includes players who were the best for their respective era, to me, when we think about the 2023-2027 Flames it will be tough to say something positive without mentioning Kadri's Name.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Partially. He also holds him back because he's a very sub-par passer for a first line player.

Huberdeau can whip impossible passes around at the drop of a hat, and if he played with someone that could link a second pass together, the points would be piling up significantly faster.

Huberdeau had to turn himself into a grinder in front of the net, because that's the only way you're getting a chance generated by Kadri.

Kadri likes to carry, which is good for Huberdeau. He doesn't seem to look to pass to Huberdeau once in the zone as often as he should, and when bad habits creep in he does it when Huberdeau is covered. Going forward, Zary, or maybe Frost will be a better centre for Huberdeau. They need a net front guy and/or shooter then, because it won't be Huberdeau. Could be Stromgren if he finds his game, or maybe Honzek plays wing. Or Gridin or Basha?

Huberdeau connects well with a trailing Dman. The Andersson goal was an example. Hopefully Parekh can be that guy.

[konradical]

Kadri might not be an all time great at the end, but he will be a very popular even after he is done here. He is already the most popular player in this new post Johnny/Tkachuk era.

[Har-Calgary]

So happy to see this thread, always feel like CP hates on Kadri way more than he deserves, but obviously there’s a good chunk of us that recognize just how good he’s been as a flame. Without a doubt (in my mind) the best flame since losing Johnny/Chucky. That being said we really should trade him while his trade value is still decent, maybe this offseason.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Markstrom jersey is a puker.

Does a blasty Markstrom make it any better?

Coleman might be a soon.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Does a blasty Markstrom make it any better?

Coleman might be a soon.

Coleman gets a Hell Yeah from me everytime.

[Monahammer]

Yeah, coleman is just fine! Wish we were a better club during his time here, but can't point to him as underperforming expectation at all. His 30g season last year was remarkable.

Markstrom... Markstrom lost to Edmonton in the playoffs while I lived here, in spectacular choking fashion. I will never excuse him for the horror I had to endure as a result of that. /s