Forward lines

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

You might be right about that. However, Coronato’s game has really progressed. I’d actually love to see Frost between Huberdeau and Coronato, but I’m pretty sure that won’t happen anytime soon. Huberdeau is kind of the equalizer for me, because he sees the lanes so well. Coronato would get pucks on his stick in good shooting positions. It’s something I think Huska should look at anyway.

That would be an interesting look if Huska was looking to mix up the top line. Frost could work well with Huberdeau IMO.

I think the important points are that I don’t want Zary moved back to wing and I don’t want him centering a fourth line with limited skilled players on his left and right when he comes back. It’s not a way to get him to pick up where he left off.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by stemit14

That would be an interesting look if Huska was looking to mix up the top line. Frost could work well with Huberdeau IMO.

I think the important points are that I don’t want Zary moved back to wing and I don’t want him centering a fourth line with limited skilled players on his left and right when he comes back. It’s not a way to get him to pick up where he left off.

He’s a centre, and a good one. He needs to play centre.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

He’s a centre, and a good one. He needs to play centre.

Exactly. And putting Coronato with him right away is a good way to get his game going quickly IMO. Coronato greatest chances for his linemates just like Zary does. I think Coronato could help Zary pick up right where he left off. Have them split faceoff duty based on their strong side to help with winning draws.

[TheScorpion]

When everyone is healthy...

Huberdeau-Kadri-Zary
Sharangovich-Frost-Farabee
Coronato-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka

Then trade Kadri in the summer and put Zary at centre with Coronato.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Exactly. And putting Coronato with him right away is a good way to get his game going quickly IMO. Coronato greatest chances for his linemates just like Zary does. I think Coronato could help Zary pick up right where he left off. Have them split faceoff duty based on their strong side to help with winning draws.

Ya, and putting him with a winger like Coleman on the other side probably wouldn’t hurt either.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Ya, and putting him with a winger like Coleman on the other side probably wouldn’t hurt either.

That could be a good line. Coleman instinctively goes hard to the net.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

When everyone is healthy...

Huberdeau-Kadri-Zary
Sharangovich-Frost-Farabee
Coronato-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka

Then trade Kadri in the summer and put Zary at centre with Coronato.

I like your lines but I think zary and farabee will be flipped.

[SeanCharles]

Since I know they won't put Backs down to the 4th line and perhaps it's wise to ease Zary back in with wing duties:

Huberdeau-Kadri-Farabee
Zary-Frost-Coronato
Coleman-Backlund-Sharangovich
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Since I know they won't put Backs down to the 4th line and perhaps it's wise to ease Zary back in with wing duties:

Huberdeau-Kadri-Farabee
Zary-Frost-Coronato
Coleman-Backlund-Sharangovich
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka

Yeah, for this year, I think Zary is going to play wing, and if so, these are good lines.

I want to get Zary and Coronato on a line together ASAP, and let them start building chemistry together. Even if Zary is playing wing. Then next year, Zary at C with Coronato at his side (for the next decade)

[EVERLAST]

Kadris a puckhog and has to lead the team in turnovers....does he?

Klapka might be big but is he really an NHLer?

Backs and Colesy i think really mute Coronatos potential.

Man we need Zary back , we need pospisil to play better or he needs to go .

Is Conroy done? Can he do more to get more offense? Or can our system be tweaked so our forwards are backchecking a little better and we start limiting opponents defensively like we saw detroit do to us?

The trap is boring yes but Detroit plays it well and man they transition well to offence and Huska needs to implement this jnto our game.

We have speed , more youth more talent vision and skill that can be squeezed out . Maybe im too hopeful?

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

Is Conroy done? Can he do more to get more offense? Or can our system be tweaked so our forwards are backchecking a little better and we start limiting opponents defensively like we saw detroit do to us?

The trap is boring yes but Detroit plays it well and man they transition well to offence and Huska needs to implement this jnto our game.

We have speed , more youth more talent vision and skill that can be squeezed out . Maybe im too hopeful?

As Burke said the other day - we're playing with house money at this point. No need to add more for this season.

The team has earned the right to not have this be a firesale (and I don't think you're getting a 1st for Andersson at the deadline), so dance with the one(s) who brung ya.

Nice to see even Vladar earn a win back there.

[Enoch Root]

If Conroy can pull off another trade like the one Thursday, then great. But I don't see who else we can move, that wouldn't derail the team - Pospisil maybe? He isn't trading Weegar or Andersson at this point, nor Coleman.

If there is a good young defenseman that can be had at a reasonable price, and that defenseman would be part of the long term plans, then sure - go for it.

But otherwise, I would like to see promotions from within at this point - give Solovyov, Kuznetsov, Poirier and Grushnikov a chance, let's see what they look like. And if one or two of them can fill a role and stick with the club, great - more guys that can gain experience playing meaningful games.

[Enoch Root]

I would like to see Stromgren get a look too.

If Stromgren could fill in on Backlund's line, it would allow them to move Coronato up (where he should be), and to move Pospisil down to the 4th line C role.

That would really deepen the lineup.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

Kadris a puckhog and has to lead the team in turnovers....does he?

Klapka might be big but is he really an NHLer?

Backs and Colesy i think really mute Coronatos potential.

Man we need Zary back , we need pospisil to play better or he needs to go .

Is Conroy done? Can he do more to get more offense? Or can our system be tweaked so our forwards are backchecking a little better and we start limiting opponents defensively like we saw detroit do to us?

The trap is boring yes but Detroit plays it well and man they transition well to offence and Huska needs to implement this jnto our game.

We have speed , more youth more talent vision and skill that can be squeezed out . Maybe im too hopeful?

I think Pospisil is what he is, a bottom 6 forward, but they keep playing him with our offensive players and he looks out of place.

They should play him with Backlund and Coleman and see what Coronato can do with other linemates.

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I think Pospisil is what he is, a bottom 6 forward, but they keep playing him with our offensive players and he looks out of place.

They should play him with Backlund and Coleman and see what Coronato can do with other linemates.

Maybe Kerins needs another try? See who competes better between the 2?
Kerins was going hard to the net and being a more disciplined wasnr he?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If Conroy can pull off another trade like the one Thursday, then great. But I don't see who else we can move, that wouldn't derail the team - Pospisil maybe? He isn't trading Weegar or Andersson at this point, nor Coleman.

If there is a good young defenseman that can be had at a reasonable price, and that defenseman would be part of the long term plans, then sure - go for it.

But otherwise, I would like to see promotions from within at this point - give Solovyov, Kuznetsov, Poirier and Grushnikov a chance, let's see what they look like. And if one or two of them can fill a role and stick with the club, great - more guys that can gain experience playing meaningful games.

I'd be hesitant for the Flames to take on any more d-men unless they also plan to move Andersson and/or Weegar in the off-season. The Flames have several prospects who are going to be looking for development time on the big club soon. I'd hate to see the Flames repeat their mistakes and have guys walk for free, the way Kylington and Valimaki did. Those guys didn't turn out to be big losses, but, eventually, if don't appreciate what you have, you'll end up with a Hull or Savard type sitation.

[dammage79]

As far as I'm concerned, they got their FWs done unless they start making 1 for 1 trades to address specific needs.

Do they still need a RHS FW who has decent F/O stats? Probably.

I think if they address anywhere it should be replacing Vladar and adding an experienced veteran LD for the top 4.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If Conroy can pull off another trade like the one Thursday, then great. But I don't see who else we can move, that wouldn't derail the team - Pospisil maybe? He isn't trading Weegar or Andersson at this point, nor Coleman.

If there is a good young defenseman that can be had at a reasonable price, and that defenseman would be part of the long term plans, then sure - go for it.

But otherwise, I would like to see promotions from within at this point - give Solovyov, Kuznetsov, Poirier and Grushnikov a chance, let's see what they look like. And if one or two of them can fill a role and stick with the club, great - more guys that can gain experience playing meaningful games.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Farabee-Frost-Sharangovich (Zary when he's back)
Coleman-Backlund-Pospisil (Sharangovich when Zary's back)
Lomberg-Bishop (Pospisil when Zary's back)-Klapka

I know some really want Zary in the middle but Frost is just better right now. And theres no way you are putting Backlund on line 4.

[gvitaly]

I really want to see what Frost - Huberdeau might look like!

Huberdeau - Frost - Sharangovich

That would be my skill, east - west line

Farabee - Kadri - Pospisil(Zary)

Great in tansition, north south, go to the net, get under the oposition's skin line.

Coleman - Backlund - Coronato

Defensive matchups against the opposition's top lines

Lomberg(Stromgren) - Kerins(Bishop, Pospisil) - Klapka(Pospisil)

Hopefully that line starts pushing play a lot more once Pospisil gets to play on it. I would be just fine seeing less Lomberg and definitely less Rooney on it.

This lineup idea is based on 3 forward pairings of Huberdeau - Frost; Coleman - Backlund; and Kadri - Zary. That leaves Sharangovich, Coronato, Farabee and Pospisil as the guys rotating once a line gets stale.

[stemit14]

I don’t understand the scepticism so many have on Zary being a centre. I know I must be in the minority because so many on here want to put him back to wing in their new line ups. Even the guys on Barn Burner today were clarifying him as a player that “could be a centre” rather than calling him a centre.

Did he not look fantastic at centre in the months before his injury? I thought he did. Any struggles in the face off dot are pretty common for any young centre so I don’t think that’s a good reason to say he’s not a centre - that skill improves with experience. He’s been developed at every level leading up to the NHL as a centre. His defensive game looked solid playing centre and he seemed to be generating just as much if not more scoring chances playing centre. Pretty sure there was a stat that said he leads the flames in generating scoring chances when he is the one carrying the puck across the offensive blue line - and that’s with him playing centre. Why not keep him playing centre? I don’t see the downside to it but I do see the downside to derailing his development as a centre by switching him back and forth… that’s what typically leads to players becoming “wingers who can play centre a bit” rather than being “centres”.

What I like about the changes in the roster now is that it opens up the chance for Zary to centre play with Coronato. Both players look ready to play together and I think they would be a really good fit.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Farabee
Good scoring line. Kadri and Huberdeau have found chemistry. I think Farabee will as well. His skillset matches well with Huberdeau and Kadri IMO.

Klapka/Stromgren-Zary-Coronato
Not sure who fits on the left side best but I’d be fine trying Klapka if he starts playing more often like he did against Buffalo. Stromgren could also fit. Either way, it gets Zary and Coronato together which I really want to see. Both of their defensive games are at a point where I don’t think they need vets to carry the load. If you want to play it safe, you could put someone like Coleman up on this line but I’d prefer keeping him and Backlund as a pairing.

Sharangovich-Frost-Posposil
Looked good last night. If they keep that going it finds a fit for two guys that have bounced around the line up looking for consistency all year.

Lomberg/Stromgren-Backlund-Coleman
Completely replaces the 4th line with a strong 3rd line. No longer a weakness on the team. Backlund and Coleman still play a significant role on the team with special teams and this line will not be benched in the 3rd like the current 4th line does.

I think some people don’t like the idea of Backlund-Coleman on the “4th line”. I look at it as rolling 4 lines really evenly. No longer shortening the bench in 3rd periods leads to decreased minutes for everyone as they no longer need to worry about the fourth line getting hemmed in. Plus Backlund-Coleman work great at developing young players so I’d love to see them do that with Stromgren or Klapka.