[Signing] Should NHL/Calgary hire more Arab/Lebanese players like Kadri?

[Locke]

I dont really see why ethnicity matters.

The NHL is basically a pure meritocracy, if they earn a spot they earn a spot.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont really see why ethnicity matters.

The NHL is basically a pure meritocracy*, if they earn a spot they earn a spot.

*of upper middleclass and above

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont really see why ethnicity matters.

That sounds exactly like something someone would say if they DIDN'T want to hire more Arab/Lebanese players like Kadri.

[Jason14h]

I’ve been waiting for DEI to come to athletes !

[activeStick]

Hahaha great thread. But on the topic by the OP, fear not, minorities are slowly starting to increase their numbers in the NHL. This is just my own take as a child of immigrants, but many of the parents in my group did not have the kind of extra income to put their kids in hockey growing up (it's an expensive sport!). But as we grew up here and began making higher incomes than our parents (that's the goal!) and started having our own kids, many put their kids into hockey. These kids are starting to show up now in the draft and in increasing numbers, which is great to see.

Maybe not what you're asking about specifically, but last year, Kevin He of the Winnipeg Jets became the first Chinese-born player to sign a contract in the NHL.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1869065105478140262

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Bonded

*of upper middleclass and above

Nope - they take the best players regardless of where they come from

Your confusing how people become the best with not taking the best

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bonded

*of upper middleclass and above

Well thats something hockey has been dealing with for a very long time.

Arab/Lebanese people have some disadvantages. They often move to Canada and it takes a while to establish themselves financially and hockey is not a cheap sport to play, I dont have a solution for that.

Furthermore, they're not as culturally invested in hockey as they would be for other sports more accessible and familiar to them.

It makes sense.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Poe969

That sounds exactly like something someone would say if they DIDN'T want to hire more Arab/Lebanese players like Kadri.

Ya...got me?

Besides, the NHL doesnt really 'hire' players. They play and get scouted and drafted and if they stick they get signed.

If they dont...they dont? I dont know. I'm not a scout or a GM.

[CroFlames]

Flames drafted and developed the first player of Eritrean descent.

[Geeoff]

I think that the NHL is the top league and so the focus should be on hiring the best players. However, I think that the more kids are playing hockey, the more it benefits the NHL, so it could benefit the NHL to think of ways to market the game to demographics they are currently not reaching.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by metroneck

I think you are touching on a better question, that could actually make a difference.

Should the Flames/ NHL/ Hockey Canada etc be putting more resources into programs to support and encourage minorities, non-traditional hockey cultures, and people with lower socio-economic status to play hockey at a higher level.

CSEC and Hockey Canada should 100% be investing more in new customer acquisition and doing more to capture youth attention in Canada's changing demographics.

The stats tell a different story. According to Stats Canada figures, the median wage of the 250-300k newcomers entering Canada each year under the skilled worker, skilled trades, and Canadian Class immigration programs exceeds the median wage of Canadian citizens by roughly 20-25%. These are people aged 25-40 with young families or are ready to start families in Canada.

If Hockey Canada wants to increase interest in hockey and cascade some of that interest into youth registration, which also benefits the CHL/NHL by creating more fans, they need to expose these younger, higher-than-median-wage earning individuals and families to the sport.

Hockey Canada isn't doing enough in generate interest amongst visible minorities at the present time, especially at the grassroots level, and they'll only be able to milk their rapidly aging fanbase of existing "Canadian" hockey fans for so long.

And personally, more diversity is good. I played 10 years of minor hockey in Calgary as a visible minority and only ever played with two black kids, two brown kids, and a handful of asian kids in that span. It would have been nice to see a little more representation of non-Caucasians in the sport. The demographics are slightly better now, but hockey is still very inaccessible to the vast majority of visible minorities. Why would they play hockey when soccer, basketball, and other sports are easier to play and also played by their social circles (aka non-Caucasians)

[Winsor_Pilates]

This thread is just bait for a fight

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Poe969

That sounds exactly like something someone would say if they DIDN'T want to hire more Arab/Lebanese players like Kadri.

No, that sounds like someone that would just pick the best players, regardless of race. You know, the fair way of doing things.

[mike66]

Originally Posted by Radio

Must be a casual speller as well. You must mean "hire". Besides you don't hire players, you draft or sign them. Meaning they have to be players to begin with.

that is why i checked the "signing" option. they are still really hired and can be fired. humans are not perfect one spelling error and you have to whine about it ? shows your insecurity.

[mike66]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well thats something hockey has been dealing with for a very long time.

Arab/Lebanese people have some disadvantages. They often move to Canada and it takes a while to establish themselves financially and hockey is not a cheap sport to play, I dont have a solution for that.

Furthermore, they're not as culturally invested in hockey as they would be for other sports more accessible and familiar to them.

It makes sense.

Whose charging a lot to play on ice?

[btimbit]

This type of trolling is quite refreshing after seeing all the political idiot trolls run rampant lately

[mike66]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

This thread is just bait for a fight

No. do you not remember Al MacInnis?

Can NHL survive without fights?

[mike66]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

This is a weird post. What kind of casual hockey fan makes an account here 16 years ago... Also, what the hell is with the post history trying to hawk a VPN/ networking service several times.

Weird.

not everyone is required as a human to act uniform like everyone else.
If u have solution to watch blackout games when out Calgary then do better. i m just trying to helpful.


Yes for 10 years i didnt really use account then 2020 happen i use it now im back.

boogerz said it best and helped a lot in this open discussion

Originally Posted by boogerz

CSEC and Hockey Canada should 100% be investing more in new customer acquisition and doing more to capture youth attention in Canada's changing demographics.

The stats tell a different story. According to Stats Canada figures, the median wage of the 250-300k newcomers entering Canada each year under the skilled worker, skilled trades, and Canadian Class immigration programs exceeds the median wage of Canadian citizens by roughly 20-25%. These are people aged 25-40 with young families or are ready to start families in Canada.

If Hockey Canada wants to increase interest in hockey and cascade some of that interest into youth registration, which also benefits the CHL/NHL by creating more fans, they need to expose these younger, higher-than-median-wage earning individuals and families to the sport.

Hockey Canada isn't doing enough in generate interest amongst visible minorities at the present time, especially at the grassroots level, and they'll only be able to milk their rapidly aging fanbase of existing "Canadian" hockey fans for so long.

And personally, more diversity is good. I played 10 years of minor hockey in Calgary as a visible minority and only ever played with two black kids, two brown kids, and a handful of asian kids in that span. It would have been nice to see a little more representation of non-Caucasians in the sport. The demographics are slightly better now, but hockey is still very inaccessible to the vast majority of visible minorities. Why would they play hockey when soccer, basketball, and other sports are easier to play and also played by their social circles (aka non-Caucasians)

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by mike66

No. do you not remember Al MacInnis?

al-Maa-Khaniz was Lebanese?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by mike66

not everyone is required as a human to act uniform like everyone else.
If u have solution to watch blackout games when out Calgary then do better. i m just trying to helpful.


Yes for 10 years i didnt really use account then 2020 happen i use it now im back.

boogerz said it best and helped a lot in this open discussion

Your thread in OT about “finally” “finding” a VPN you can is the same VPN you’re been promoting since 2009 from the looks of it.

That’s quirky.