12-28-2024, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
How do they come to that conclusion. I’m wondering if we being unfairly expected to have more high end talent when we have just started our rebuild. 2023 draft was not a rebuild draft. Even the 2024 draft isn’t really a rebuilding draft we played a good portion of the season with the guy who we used to get picks. 2025 draft to me is the first official draft of the rebuild. So I’m not sure why they would expect us to have stock piled high end picks. Even at that Parekh and Wolf should have us a bit higher.
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It isn't about 'expecting'. They simply give scores to the players in the organization and add them up.
It's important to remember here that the Future Rating isn't just prospects, but also players on the team, and how valuable they will be going forward. The Oilers scored 8 on the Future axis, not because they have any prospects (which we know they don't) but because McDavid and Draisaitl are still on the team, and are still projected to be dominant for the next few years.
Several of the Flames' best vets are aging (Backlund 35, Coleman 34, Kadri 33, Huberdeau 31) so they aren't getting a lot of Future points from that group.
None the less, their Future list is clearly being undervalued: Wolf, Zary, Coronato and Parekh isn't a terrible group of prospects. And the depth behind it: Honzek, Pelletier, Bahl, Brzustewicz, Gridin, Basha, Stromgren, etc., etc., should have them deserving more than a 2.
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12-28-2024, 01:16 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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How about some sharks sushi tonight?
Go Flames Go )))))
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12-28-2024, 01:25 PM
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#23
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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I’m heading out of cell range glamping for a few days, I hope I come back to some balanced scoring and good goaltending. Go Flames!
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12-28-2024, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheese
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Backlund has become Andersson... or Andersson is wearing Backlund's jersey for some reason...
Sharks gave Vegas a bit of a scare last night and have been a little better lately especially with Askarov. If the Flames take them lightly, they're going to be surprised.
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12-28-2024, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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This game is going to be like two one-legged guys in an ass-kicking contest.
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12-28-2024, 04:11 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Backlund has become Andersson... or Andersson is wearing Backlund's jersey for some reason...
Sharks gave Vegas a bit of a scare last night and have been a little better lately especially with Askarov. If the Flames take them lightly, they're going to be surprised.
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Who seem to play for Japan and wear BUM gloves.
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12-28-2024, 04:58 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
It wasn't malicious. He was trying to contend in the here and how. He wasn't trying to intentionally punish the franchise or anything.
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Except for doing it after the team was neutered.
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12-28-2024, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by Redrum
Except for doing it after the team was neutered.
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They weren't projected to nosedive like they did though.
Things looked rough once Tkachuk said he wasn't coming back but after the trade was made opinions changed and they were supposed to contend again for the Pacific.
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12-28-2024, 07:00 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Calgary
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Go Flames Go!
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Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-Kadri Huby Duby dooo Baby Got Backlund
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12-28-2024, 07:27 PM
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This game will also be on Citytv and Sportsnet 360.
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12-28-2024, 07:31 PM
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Wrong post
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Last edited by hwy19man; 12-28-2024 at 08:06 PM.
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12-28-2024, 08:04 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Iggy-ville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
It wasn't malicious. He was trying to contend in the here and how. He wasn't trying to intentionally punish the franchise or anything.
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It was a desperate move by a GM trying to save himself without thinking of what was best for the franchise.
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12-28-2024, 08:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by nieuwy-89
It was a desperate move by a GM trying to save himself without thinking of what was best for the franchise.
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I know...and people are still under the impression that he left the Flames.
Other way around.
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12-28-2024, 10:03 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Locke
I know...and people are still under the impression that he left the Flames.
Other way around.
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You think the flames were firing Treliving (or not renewing) and he bailed right before? I can't see that. If they knew he wasn't the guy I can't see them letting him make a bunch of win now moves to save his job, that makes no sense.
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12-28-2024, 10:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
You think the flames were firing Treliving (or not renewing) and he bailed right before? I can't see that. If they knew he wasn't the guy I can't see them letting him make a bunch of win now moves to save his job, that makes no sense.
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Those moves were the straw that broke the Camel's back.
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The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
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If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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12-28-2024, 10:54 PM
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Yup, Treliving was so horrible that the owners couldn't wait to fire him… until right after he got hired for the most prestigious GM job in hockey.
Something doesn't add up in this narrative.
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