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Old 08-09-2024, 10:31 AM   #21
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Hypothetically if Dube is proven innocent in courts [...]
*Found not guilty. "Innocence" isn't "proven" in criminal trials: guilt is, beyond a reasonable doubt. And if it's not proven then the accused is "not guilty", not "innocent".

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*Found not guilty. "Innocence" isn't "proven" in criminal trials: guilt is, beyond a reasonable doubt. And if it's not proven then the accused is "not guilty", not "innocent".

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It’s funny that even with high profile cases like OJ Simpson and Robert Durst people are like “well they were found innocent not guilty so they obviously didn’t do it!”
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Old 08-09-2024, 10:47 AM   #23
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It’s funny that even with high profile cases like OJ Simpson and Robert Durst people are like “well they were found innocent not guilty so they obviously didn’t do it!”
Sarcastic? I have yet to hear to hear anyone say OJ didn't do it, even those who agree with the verdict.
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Sarcastic? I have yet to hear to hear anyone say OJ didn't do it, even those who agree with the verdict.
That’s literally my point, my man.
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Old 08-09-2024, 12:46 PM   #25
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Hypothetically if Dube is proven innocent in courts, do teams look at any of these guys again or is that ship sailed?
Guess he thinks no seeing that he signed in the KHL. Guessing there was a clause that if he was found guilty the contract would be void.

But if he isn’t no one can stop him from working.
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Old 08-09-2024, 11:01 PM   #26
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They requested it because for sexual assault claims where consent is the issue, you may be able to sway a jury, who don't have to explain their reasons. Plus, you can always waive the request later.
Right.

Many people have heard the old lawyer's saying about the law and the facts, but a lot of people haven't heard the longer version (which, I believe, is the original):

If you have the law on your side, hammer it into the judge.
If you have the facts on your side, hammer them into the jury.
If you have neither, hammer on the table.

You can't hammer anything into the jury if there's no jury to begin with.

I'm not saying the facts are on the side of the accused in this particular case, but a sufficiently clever legal team may be able to convince a jury that there is reasonable doubt.
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Old 08-11-2024, 09:33 AM   #28
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Do we have a sex offender yet?
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Corey Perry, unofficially.
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Old 08-11-2024, 01:49 PM   #30
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They requested it because for sexual assault claims where consent is the issue, you may be able to sway a jury, who don't have to explain their reasons. Plus, you can always waive the request later.
Banking at least one member of the jury went by a nickname that consisted of their last name with a "sy" at the end at some point in their life.
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