07-16-2024, 11:51 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by d as in david
what # was catton?
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15
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07-16-2024, 12:06 PM
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#22
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Originally Posted by Tacoman
It was interesting talking to the Flames head of NCAA scouting at the dev camp. I gave him a little grief (in jest) for drafting Perekh ahead of Buium. He said they had them ranked pretty much identically but went with Perekh because he was a right shot. He definitely didn't say it but I would have to believe that the Canadian vs American had to have come into play as well.
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Yeah, if you think they are about the same then you go with the guy you hold the rights to for sure
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07-16-2024, 12:09 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Interesting that Cayden Lindstrom is 18.
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07-16-2024, 12:10 PM
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#24
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Interesting that Cayden Lindstrom is 18.
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Doesn't surprise me, he was just drafted.
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07-16-2024, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Doesn't surprise me, he was just drafted.
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But so were a few members of tier two as well.
I think that was their point.
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07-16-2024, 12:13 PM
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#26
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Look I was trying and failing to make a joke about him being 18 years old, see, never mind
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07-16-2024, 12:34 PM
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Seems to have some serious recency bias. Anyone in this years draft is generally ranked better than last years draft, despite last years draft being generally considered a better draft.
Ryan Leonard below Cole Eiserman?
Trevor Connolly ahead of Easton Cowan, Calum Ritchie and Bradley Nadeau?
Some strange rankings on there.
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07-16-2024, 12:39 PM
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#28
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I still think Honzek is very underrated. Yes, disappointing season to be sure, but he has everything you want in a that tier of prospect just outside of "franchise" or "blue-chip" level which are usually only available in the top few picks. Good on Wheeler for not pushing Honzek too far down. I always prefer players who generate their own offence.
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07-16-2024, 12:57 PM
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#29
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Seems to have some serious recency bias. Anyone in this years draft is generally ranked better than last years draft, despite last years draft being generally considered a better draft.
Ryan Leonard below Cole Eiserman?
Trevor Connolly ahead of Easton Cowan, Calum Ritchie and Bradley Nadeau?
Some strange rankings on there.
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Wheeler is very high in Esierman so it's consistent with how he views him.
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07-16-2024, 12:59 PM
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#30
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He's the obvious one but Musty comes to mind as a guy that would have been a better pick.
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Musty was also oddly left of the U.S. WJC team last year.
Seems like a prospect that fans/bloggers like more than the hockey world. Why? I have no idea.
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07-16-2024, 01:59 PM
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#31
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Can’t argue too much with the Flames rankings
Honzek had such a terrible year that it’s a surprise he is even mentioned
Hopefully, he can turn it around quickly
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Honest question. Ever see him play live?
He did have a rough year and there is certainly no guarantee that he ends up turning into a good pro player, but his size and skill set make him a tantalizing prospect.
You might be surprised he's still considered a top prospect, but actual talent evaluators won't be.
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07-16-2024, 02:03 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by blender
Honest question. Ever see him play live?
He did have a rough year and there is certainly no guarantee that he ends up turning into a good pro player, but his size and skill set make him a tantalizing prospect.
You might be surprised he's still considered a top prospect, but actual talent evaluators won't be.
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I saw him play live twice against Tij and the Rockets, and he was pretty underwhelming. Scored a sweet one timer and the tools are certainly there, but I couldn't help but be more impressed by Lipinski. Honz looked a bit disengaged at times. Just my two cents.
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07-16-2024, 02:06 PM
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#33
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Not sure if it was noted but goalies are excluded, top 20 being released tomorrow
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07-16-2024, 02:09 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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It's so hard to gauge any player based on an injury plagued season.
Honzek, Pelletier, and Poirier all fall into that boat that really need a healthy offseason, good workouts, and to come to camp on fire next year.
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07-16-2024, 02:32 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It's so hard to gauge any player based on an injury plagued season.
Honzek, Pelletier, and Poirier all fall into that boat that really need a healthy offseason, good workouts, and to come to camp on fire next year.
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Some players are constantly injured and some never get injured. Durability is a skill.
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07-16-2024, 03:02 PM
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#36
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by butterfly
Some players are constantly injured and some never get injured. Durability is a skill.
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I think it may partly be a skill - that's debatable. I'd say it is more or less genetic.
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07-16-2024, 03:07 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by VilleN
I think it may partly be a skill - that's debatable. I'd say it is more or less genetic.
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Skill may be the wrong word, but durability is a characteristic that should be rewarded or punished when evaluating a player. It's no different than size or speed in that regard.
"If he can stay healthy this year..." isn't analysis; it's an admission that the player is more likely than others to be injured, which should be part of the projection.
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07-16-2024, 03:44 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Many pro coaches say that "availability" is the most important trait a player can have.
As for the this list, it's obviously a point in time and a singular opinion. But kind of reinforces the view that Flames are going to need a few years of well above average drafting to turn this ship around. This team needs a top line and a top pairing and if you want to be a contender, these need to be in the top tier of the league.
So 2 or 3 more years of a high pick and then some good drafting with all your other picks could really change things.
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07-16-2024, 03:46 PM
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#40
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The best thing about this rebuild is that we finally have more than 1 or 2 prospects at the World Juniors. Hopefully 5 or 6 instead of ZERO like last year! lol
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