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Old 07-03-2024, 04:27 PM   #21
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What happened if one of our higher cap hits gets injured and we are still close to the floor? It’s not like you can call a Huberdeau up.
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:28 PM   #22
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What happened if one of our higher cap hits gets injured and we are still close to the floor? It’s not like you can call a Huberdeau up.
Simple. Don't put him on LTIR.
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:30 PM   #23
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Simple. Don't put him on LTIR.
But don’t you have to ice a compliant roster ?

Also hilarious how this is a thread about a trade and no is actually talking about its lol.
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:32 PM   #24
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But don’t you have to ice a compliant roster ?

Also hilarious how this is a thread about a trade and no is actually talking about its lol.
It’s still a cap compliant roster because Huberdeau’s cap hit doesn’t just disappear. He’d just be scratched.
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But don’t you have to ice a compliant roster ?

Also hilarious how this is a thread about a trade and no is actually talking about its lol.
Just the current roster has to be compliant, not what you put on the ice. Its the whole reason Arizona picked up contracts like Pronger and Datsyuk
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:34 PM   #26
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It’s still a cap compliant roster because Huberdeau’s cap hit doesn’t just disappear. He’d just be scratched.
Okay makes sense. I was thinking the players playing are the ones counting against the cap.

Strange times. We couldn’t ice a full roster once. Now we are almost at the cap floor with a full roster lol.
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:36 PM   #27
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Conroy to Murray probably: Don't worry about not getting 5M in playoff revenue to keep the team in the black in a rebuild.
My dream for years has been to run the team $10m under the cap. Running on a budget would have stopped a number of the whoopsie trades for vets or bad deals.

That discipline would be nice to see, and drive the behavior to build through the draft that saw Calgary have success in the past.
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But don’t you have to ice a compliant roster ?
Nope. You just have to spend the money. If the 23-man roster (plus injury callups) is compliant, the 20 on the ice don't actually have to be.
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Nope. You just have to spend the money. If the 23-man roster (plus injury callups) is compliant, the 20 on the ice don't actually have to be.
As the great Russell Wilson says “let’s ride”
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:59 PM   #30
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Doing some CapFriendly digging while we still can: 8 teams are either currently over the cap or will be over the cap even if they sign players at league minimum. That assumes they all go with a 23-man roster.

Washington
Edmonton
Toronto
Nashville
Florida
Islanders
Philly
Ottawa

This doesn't include teams like LA and Carolina who have significant RFA to re-sign.
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Best scenario would doing a Monahan type deal, getting a 1st for a player with a couple years remaining, hope that player can turn it around, then flip for another first.
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Whatever you do find a second line center for a year or two.

Maybe a second pairing D too.
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Old 07-03-2024, 05:12 PM   #33
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Also so much for Huberdeau's contract ruining the Flames.
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Old 07-03-2024, 05:12 PM   #34
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It’s still a cap compliant roster because Huberdeau’s cap hit doesn’t just disappear. He’d just be scratched.
My understanding is that the cap still counts when a player is on IR, but the team is allowed to exceed the cap by the amount of used for IR. Basically, makes it so the IR never hinders a team from hitting the floor, also allows teams who are trying to be near the cap minimum to exploit the crap out of guys on LTIR.
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Old 07-03-2024, 05:23 PM   #35
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Having so much cap space gives the team that much more possibilities! I still don't understand why teams, especially ones in the bubble spend close to or up to the cap ceiling with not much room to do anything.
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There was a year during the post-Iginla era when the Flames had the most cap space in the league as well. And Feaster, in typical Feaster fashion, talked a big game about how he was going to weaponize it, but ended up doing sweet F all.
It does take two to tangle.
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Also so much for Huberdeau's contract ruining the Flames.
Well, his marginal play didn’t help, and his cap previously prevented the flames from improving the team.

He was certainly the start of the downfall.
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Only half serious but let’s throw 13 million of that Drai’s way in the summer, just for the meltdown.
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Doing some CapFriendly digging while we still can: 8 teams are either currently over the cap or will be over the cap even if they sign players at league minimum. That assumes they all go with a 23-man roster.

Washington
Edmonton
Toronto
Nashville
Florida
Islanders
Philly
Ottawa

This doesn't include teams like LA and Carolina who have significant RFA to re-sign.
Avalanche appear to have space, that really depends on whether player on LTIR are activated (Landeskog)

If that occurs they are well over.
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Old 07-03-2024, 05:35 PM   #40
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Well, his marginal play didn’t help, and his cap previously prevented the flames from improving the team.

He was certainly the start of the downfall.
Yeah, it is part of the reason the Flames had to tear down. When we acquired him it was supposed to keep the team competitive not start a downward spiral.
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