07-01-2024, 06:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I wasn't.
Kane / McD / Hyman
RNH / Drai / Arvidsson
Skinner / McLeod / Perry
Janmark / Ryan / Connor
Nurse / Bouchard
Ekholm / Ceci
Kulak / Brown
Carrick
Skinner
Pickard
That's 21 guys with a cap hit of $87,441,667 including carryover bonuses, dead cap etc... 558k left.
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Carrick is gone.
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07-01-2024, 06:08 PM
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First Line Centre
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Said this in the E=NG thread, Lavoie is arbitration eligible. Bank there is a side deal to go to arbitration so it opens another buyout window for Kane. They will buyout Kane, give away Ceci which will free up almost $8.5MM in cap. They will sign Broberg and Holloway, bring back Desharnais and still have money to bring in a veteran dman while keeping $1Mm tagged for a mid season Carter Hart signing…… by non-other than Stan Bowman.
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07-01-2024, 06:08 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Not sure why you're asking me to figure it out. I'm not their GM.
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You're the one saying they don't need to trade anyone, and that they can just sign Broberg and Holloway.
Even if Stecher signed for league minimum, that leaves them less than one league minimum salary in cap space.
Holloway was making 925k, Broberg 863k, and I can't see either of them taking a pay cut. To re-sign them both, they would need to get rid of two other cheap bodies (say, Brown and Brown). That puts them right back in the same position – capped out with a 21-man roster. Only now they would have two guys making a million each to play in the AHL.
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07-01-2024, 06:09 PM
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#24
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Carrick is gone.
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New Carrick
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07-01-2024, 06:10 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Said this in the E=NG thread, Lavoie is arbitration eligible. Bank there is a side deal to go to arbitration so it opens another buyout window for Kane. They will buyout Kane, give away Ceci which will free up almost $8.5MM in cap. They will sign Broberg and Holloway, bring back and still have money to bring in a veteran dman while keeping $1Mm tagged for a mid season Carter Hart signing…… by non-other than Stan Bowman.
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Desharnais signed with Vancouver.
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07-01-2024, 06:10 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Carrick is gone.
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OK, Capfriendly still has him on the team, so that's the problem then. But it doesn't help because then they're down to a 20 man roster and Carrick cost less than a mil.
So they're actually worse off as a result - to get to a full roster they have to add Broberg, Holloway and a third player, and that assumes they don't subtract anyone.
EDIT: Oh, it was Connor Carrick. Weird.
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07-01-2024, 06:10 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
You're the one saying they don't need to trade anyone, and that they can just sign Broberg and Holloway.
Even if Stecher signed for league minimum, that leaves them less than one league minimum salary in cap space.
Holloway was making 925k, Broberg 863k, and I can't see either of them taking a pay cut. To re-sign them both, they would need to get rid of two other cheap bodies (say, Brown and Brown). That puts them right back in the same position – capped out with a 21-man roster. Only now they would have two guys making a million each to play in the AHL.
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Huh? What? Are we doing this #### again?
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07-01-2024, 06:10 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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If we can save Holloway that would be great...
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07-01-2024, 06:11 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Huh? What? Are we doing this #### again?
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You are, apparently.
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07-01-2024, 06:13 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
OK, Capfriendly still has him on the team, so that's the problem then. But it doesn't help because then they're down to a 20 man roster and Carrick cost less than a mil.
So they're actually worse off as a result - to get to a full roster they have to add Broberg, Holloway and a third player, and that assumes they don't subtract anyone.
EDIT: Oh, it was Connor Carrick. Weird.
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Connor Carrick is listed as a non-roster player anyway, so he doesn't count in their numbers.
With Stecher re-signed, even at league minimum, they can't add a 22nd man without going over the cap. Moves will have to happen.
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07-01-2024, 06:13 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by stang
New Carrick
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I wouldn't have been slotting Connor Carrick in the 22 man calculation, and even less now with Stecher re-signing.
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07-01-2024, 06:14 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Said this in the E=NG thread, Lavoie is arbitration eligible. Bank there is a side deal to go to arbitration so it opens another buyout window for Kane. They will buyout Kane, give away Ceci which will free up almost $8.5MM in cap. They will sign Broberg and Holloway, bring back Desharnais and still have money to bring in a veteran dman while keeping $1Mm tagged for a mid season Carter Hart signing…… by non-other than Stan Bowman.
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Desharnais is a Canuck.
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07-01-2024, 06:14 PM
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#33
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by D as in David
Desharnais signed with Vancouver.
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I stand corrected. Probably Anthony Deangelo then….
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07-01-2024, 06:14 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
You are, apparently.
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What's wrong with you? Just read the thread in the order the posts are posted and pay attention to who wrote what.
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07-01-2024, 06:16 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
What's wrong with you? Just read the thread in the order the posts are posted and pay attention to who wrote what.
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Nothing is wrong with me. I read the thread in the order posted, and you were the one saying the Oilers didn't need to trade anybody and they could sign Holloway and Broberg.
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07-01-2024, 06:17 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
OK, Capfriendly still has him on the team, so that's the problem then. But it doesn't help because then they're down to a 20 man roster and Carrick cost less than a mil.
So they're actually worse off as a result - to get to a full roster they have to add Broberg, Holloway and a third player, and that assumes they don't subtract anyone.
EDIT: Oh, it was Connor Carrick. Weird.
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Oh Oilers. Did they hire Benning? We have one Brown, let's make it two Browns. We have one Skinner, lets make it two Skinners. We had a Carrick, but he left to NY so we better sign a new Carrick.
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07-01-2024, 06:17 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Nothing is wrong with me. I read the thread in the order posted, and you were the one saying the Oilers didn't need to trade anybody and they could sign Holloway and Broberg.
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FFS use the quote button where I posted they don't need to trade anybody. Honestly.  
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07-01-2024, 06:17 PM
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#38
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Lifetime Suspension
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You can’t waive and buyout Kane. He has a nmc.
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07-01-2024, 06:18 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Nothing is wrong with me. I read the thread in the order posted, and you were the one saying the Oilers didn't need to trade anybody and they could sign Holloway and Broberg.
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... Where did he say that
He said they have 1.33M to sign Holloway and Broberg.
That doesn't mean they CAN do it for that amount. In fact, they literally can't; NHL minimum salary is 750k.
And they'd still only have 22 guys.
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07-01-2024, 06:20 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
... Where did he say that
He said they have 1.33M to sign Holloway and Broberg.
That doesn't mean they CAN do it for that amount. In fact, they literally can't; NHL minimum salary is 750k.
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Ya, I said $1.33m. You said you calculated $558k. I said not ($558k) according to capfriendly (that says $1.33m).
Simple stuff.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
And they'd still only have 22 guys.
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The Oilers never make it to 23 guys.
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