[News] Exclusive interview with Sharangovich on NashSport Magazine

[midniteowl]

Thanks gvitaly!

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You know what's nice about this? That someone in the organization just confirmed what I have been trying to get through to some posters on here, that Conroy is not just saying they intend to make the playoffs but actually means it. I wouldn't have argued it so much if I didn't have very good information on that.

Weegar effectively said the same thing.

You're right - and we should probably believe what literally everyone on the roster/in the management team who has spoken on the matter says.

And yeah - thanks gvitaly!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You know what's nice about this? That someone in the organization just confirmed what I have been trying to get through to some posters on here, that Conroy is not just saying they intend to make the playoffs but actually means it. I wouldn't have argued it so much if I didn't have very good information on that.

That means there will be some free agent dabbling. They probably need to add a top 4 defender and a center at a minimum.

They won’t be 22 so everyone have their therapist on speed dial.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It is ALWAYS the goal to make the playoffs and win the cup - you don't tell your players that next year is going to suck, as they are walking out the door for the summer. Come on, use your head.

Except that happens. The NYR put out a damn memo to their fans for Christ's sake when they did it. GM's are very upfront with players about what direction they actually want to go in.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I am sorry, but everytime you see the word playoffs from someone on the Flames you immediately start telling us they are going for the playoffs, when the actions of the team says otherwise.

The team was hardly a playoff team with Lindholm, Hanifin, Markstrom, Zadorov and Tanev.

Plugging those holes with Zucker, and Brad Skeji isn't going to make us better.

Do you think his message shoudl have been, go home guys we have zero playoff aspirations, drink beer party have fun.

The actions from the GM say exactly what he is saying. Just because you refuse to believe it doesn't change it. You remind me of a flat earther.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except that happens. The NYR put out a damn memo to their fans for Christ's sake when they did it. GM's are very upfront with players about what direction they actually want to go in.

In NY its a little different

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except that happens. The NYR put out a damn memo to their fans for Christ's sake when they did it. GM's are very upfront with players about what direction they actually want to go in.

If they are buyers at the deadline, trying to get into the playoffs, I will come and give you your due. I strongly doubt that will happen, but I am happy to give people credit when they're right.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If they are buyers at the deadline, trying to get into the playoffs, I will come and give you your due. I strongly doubt that will happen, but I am happy to give people credit when they're right.

I am not sure if they will be buyers or not at the deadline. I don't know what the team will even look like yet. I do think they will plug some holes via free agency.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You know what's nice about this? That someone in the organization just confirmed what I have been trying to get through to some posters on here, that Conroy is not just saying they intend to make the playoffs but actually means it. I wouldn't have argued it so much if I didn't have very good information on that.

That isn't nice news at all, that is terrible news. Like you may be right, but it would be a very short sighted and dumb thing to do.

We are in the perfect position to start drafting some potential elite players over the next few years, if we just stay patient. You can't win the cup without some of these elite level high end picks.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I am not sure if they will be buyers or not at the deadline. I don't know what the team will even look like yet. I do think they will plug some holes via free agency.

I agree that they will try to plug some holes with FAs, but there is a lot of open pasture between that and actively trying to make the playoffs (such as being buyers at the deadline)

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The actions from the GM say exactly what he is saying. Just because you refuse to believe it doesn't change it. You remind me of a flat earther.

Exactly.

I think if you look at Conroy’s first year it’s pretty clear. He said he would not let UFAs walk, and traded all of them. In those trades, he did exactly what he’s saying - he was retooling. He got pieces for the future, and pieces for now. It was not him “burning it down”, it was him staying true to what he said.

It’s why we should trust what he’s saying publicly to the media and privately to players.

I think there’s absolutely a reason why we have Steinberg talking about possible UFAs. I’d fully expect to see some turnover via trade, and reloading via free agency.

You all know I’m adamantly against this path - but there is zero reason to think this isn’t the path forward at this stage. Conroy has been true to his public words so far.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Exactly.

I think if you look at Conroy’s first year it’s pretty clear. He said he would not let UFAs walk, and traded all of them. In those trades, he did exactly what he’s saying - he was retooling. He got pieces for the future, and pieces for now. It was not him “burning it down”, it was him staying true to what he said.

It’s why we should trust what he’s saying publicly to the media and privately to players.

I think there’s absolutely a reason why we have Steinberg talking about possible UFAs. I’d fully expect to see some turnover via trade, and reloading via free agency.

You all know I’m adamantly against this path - but there is zero reason to think this isn’t the path forward at this stage. Conroy has been true to his public words so far.

When he talked about a 3 year plan with Parker what just jokes?

Zucker? Debrusk? This is a reload? Who did we retool with? A recently convereted defenceman? Kuzmenko?

I guess we will see come September.

[GreenLantern2814]

Sharangovich and Kuzmenko are better than any forwards they could pursue in UFA or the trade market.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except that happens. The NYR put out a damn memo to their fans for Christ's sake when they did it. GM's are very upfront with players about what direction they actually want to go in.

That was one example. I don't recall any others. And again, nothing Sharangovich said necessarily relates to the immediate future. Just long term.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except that happens. The NYR put out a damn memo to their fans for Christ's sake when they did it. GM's are very upfront with players about what direction they actually want to go in.

'New York put out a damn memo' is not the mic drop you think it is. I can't think of one other instance that a team has ever put out a memo to fans saying they're rebuilding. And New York knew damn well they are a free agent dream scenario and could just draft high a couple years and add some stars through free agency and players demanding trades to them.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I can't think of one other instance that a team has ever put out a memo to fans saying they're rebuilding.

Chicago did it too.

Spoiler!

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

When he talked about a 3 year plan with Parker what just jokes?

Zucker? Debrusk? This is a reload? Who did we retool with? A recently convereted defenceman? Kuzmenko?

I guess we will see come September.

In his trades, he made sure to get a player back for now in each one.

Toffoli -> Sharangovich
Lindholm -> Kuzmenko
Hanifin -> Miromanov
Tanev -> Grushnikov

In every trade outside of Zadarov, he pressed a fast forward button - and he even traded the 5th he got in the Big Z trade for a player who has pissed off to the KHL.

Conroy’s only reference to a 3 year plan is when he notes the next 3 years as being important for the amateur scouts because of the returns they’ve gotten in the trades so far (picks in the next 3 years).

He has been retooling. In going back and looking at his year end, I still find it laughable that he cites Dallas. He notes Dallas’ draft (which includes a 4th overall pick), and their free agent work. Nothing about what Conroy says shows any desire to do anything other than what we’ve been doing all these long, painful years.

Conroy is looking for shortcuts. He cites Montreal trading for younger players. I imagine it’s due to ownership, and it is what it is.

[Kipper_3434]

Conroy has spent very little futures in his short time as gm. In that same time period he has added; 2 1st's, a 2nd, 2 3rds, 4 solid prospects, and 3 players. In exchange for ufa's. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt until he starts handing out crazy contracts and trading high picks.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Chicago did it too.

They didn't announce that they were going to rebuild. They had just lost the last two big names from their championship years, and admitted that they were already rebuilding.

And they said they were bringing in players ‘via trade and free agency’, which, apparently, is just what no team is ever allowed to do during a rebuild.

‘A culture that embraces the grind of improvement driven by competitors who are relentless, engaged and motivated by a team-first mentality to win.’ That's just a wordier way of saying what Conroy said, that he expects the team to compete. Notice that this does not mean competing for a playoff spot. But it does mean going into every game with the intention of doing your best to win.

It is in no way a declaration that the team was going to sell off its roster and tank.

[MrMike]

Seems like a good head on his shoulder.

It’s too bad Zadorov isn’t around. I respect he knew this was his time to get his “set up multiple generations” in going for his next contract, but I think he was a real leader/free thinker in this type of way.

I love that we are finally tapping into the Russian/Iron Curtian players that we have seemed to have zero of ever until now.

We’ve tried the Swedish and American approach, and they didn’t turn out too well.