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Old 11-14-2023, 04:56 PM   #21
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Kadri to Montreal for Mony and a 1st.
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No retention on Kadri. That's 6 years of retention and double it if the other team does a buyout.

Kadri can stay or someone can trade for him straight up.
Then he will be a Flame. nobody wants Kadri at 7m for 5 more years after this age 33-38.

Slight chance if we could take an equally bad contract back but not sure there is one that makes sense.
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No retention on Kadri. That's 6 years of retention and double it if the other team does a buyout.

Kadri can stay or someone can trade for him straight up.
We need to be patient in a Kadri or Huberdeau deal. Just cause he wants out doesn't mean he have to move him right away.

If he plays well enough, maybe there is a team that has a bad contract that might want him.

Or a team like Arizona or Buffalo will take him full salary for next to nothing
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Quite a bit from Lebrun on the Athletic as well

- Hanifin extension was close to $60M. Off the table for the team and the player
- buzz around the league the Flames are open for business
- teams want to talk extension with Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev which should help the flames return. Extensions will be part of the discussion
- no rush deadline is March 8th
- 3-4 teams shown interest in Tanev including the Leafs (who are in on Zadorov)
- do the flames trade Tanev soon to avoid injury risk?
- Van and NJ in on Zadorov
- Canucks GM confirmed he wants to add a D


https://theathletic.com/5063996/2023...shared_article
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Quite a bit from Lebrun on the Athletic as well

- Hanifin extension was close to $60M. Off the table for the team and the player
- buzz around the league the Flames are open for business
- teams want to talk extension with Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev which should help the flames return. Extensions will be part of the discussion
- no rush deadline is March 8th
- 3-4 teams shown interest in Tanev including the Leafs (who are in on Zadorov)
- do the flames trade Tanev soon to avoid injury risk?
- Van and NJ in on Zadorov
- Canucks GM confirmed he wants to add a D


https://theathletic.com/5063996/2023...shared_article
IMO, they need to sell sooner than the deadline. This team could still go on a winning streak and ruin their draft position.

late 1sts, 2nds and 3rds are very unlikely to be franchise altering picks.

1st overall is very likely to be franchise altering. Even 2nd or 3rd OV is likely to be franchise altering. Only San Jose looks awful, the door is open for 2nd last spot.
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Trade 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
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Nothing earth shattering, some notes:

- Conroy chased down by other GMs after GM meetings
- Zadorov trade request just the tip of the iceberg, Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev
- Flames ready for a 'roster reset', some players with term (Kadri specifically mentioned) not interested in a remaining with a rebuilding team
- Tor, Van and NJ primary destinations for all UFA defenseman, not just Zadorov

and some Patrick Kane stuff
All the anchor salesmen are chasing down Craig.
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Then he will be a Flame. nobody wants Kadri at 7m for 5 more years after this age 33-38.

Slight chance if we could take an equally bad contract back but not sure there is one that makes sense.
Treliving did, slightly over a year ago. Wonder what he'd think now.
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Old 11-14-2023, 05:04 PM   #29
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To me, the term rebuild only holds water if wolf is not the real deal at the nhl level. If he comes as advertised, the veteran core :

Forward - Huberdeau, Kadri, Backlund
defense- anderson, weegar
Goal - wolf

Is a pretty strong group to teach a bunch of eager kids. Could hit playoffs just on fun and effort.
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Kadri should be able to retain part of his own salary in order to facilitate a trade out of town.
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I am sorry I do not know how to imbed tweets. It is a screen grab of the Athletic article.

https://x.com/cofredcentral/status/1...Id-kuUoekIUv4A
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Excited to see Conroy really put his stamp on the team
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Thanks Vinny!

This is an exciting time!
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IMO, they need to sell sooner than the deadline. This team could still go on a winning streak and ruin their draft position.

late 1sts, 2nds and 3rds are very unlikely to be franchise altering picks.

1st overall is very likely to be franchise altering. Even 2nd or 3rd OV is likely to be franchise altering. Only San Jose looks awful, the door is open for 2nd last spot.
I go back and forth. I want the offers to be the best and bidders being serious. I don’t think they should be looking to make 4-6 trades on deadline day and likely spread out some of these deals. If a team steps up then no need to wait. Like the Flames did with Todfoli in 2022 they got him more than a month before the deadline.

If they bring up some wranglers and play loose they might be better than they are now all depressed and waiting for the shoe to drop. The tank might be more secure with the current group
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Good. The sooner the better.
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Lol maybe some GM is dumb enough to trade for Kadri. Pretty much confirmed the trade request didn’t hurt Zadarov’s value. GMs already tried.
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From TSN

https://www.tsn.ca/video/~2807098

Highlights:

- Flames listening on Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov, Lindholm.
- May extend beyond pending UFAs, as this roster overhaul could go deeper
- Dreger says Kadri wants to win in Calgary, but has no interest in a rebuild

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I go back and forth. I want the offers to be the best and bidders being serious. I don’t think they should be looking to make 4-6 trades on deadline day and likely spread out some of these deals. If a team steps up then no need to wait. Like the Flames did with Todfoli in 2022 they got him more than a month before the deadline.

If they bring up some wranglers and play loose they might be better than they are now all depressed and waiting for the shoe to drop. The tank might be more secure with the current group
Yeah. If they hold on to all their D then they could weaken the market. One of the D and Lindholm is fine.
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Picks picks picks picks. Move Tanev and Zadorov as soon as possible. While big Z is healthy their stlye of physical play worries me about losing a trade due to injury
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Treliving did, slightly over a year ago. Wonder what he'd think now.
He doesn't have the cap space. He also signed him giving up zero assets.
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