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Old 10-05-2023, 05:47 PM   #21
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I want to take Kole Lind if only to take away one of Coachella Valley's top performers and give the Wranglers an easier time in the AHL.
I've actually liked Lind since he was in junior. He's put up numbers at every level, but hasn't been able to get it together in the NHL. He's got good skill, 6'1" (but lanky), and is plenty snarky.
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I don't think the Oilers waive Lavoie. I think he stays up.
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Old 10-05-2023, 11:22 PM   #23
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You guys think anyone will put a claim on Ralph Lavoie or Lane Pederson if they hit waivers?
Can see someone taking a flyer on Lavoie if he hits waivers.

I'd be more interested in him than the guys the Flames have hanging around as a #4 C, for example.

But I think Zary should be getting an extended look and am baffled by the Flames' apparent fascination with Schwindt.

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Old 10-05-2023, 11:39 PM   #24
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I like Schwindt, but I don't think he showed anything special in pre-season games that would warrant him earning a spot on the team.
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I like Schwindt, but I don't think he showed anything special in pre-season games that would warrant him earning a spot on the team.
Schwindt was an intriguing prospect a couple years ago. But his development has flatlined and aside from NHL size he doesn't have much else that is NHL calibre at this stage. What is most apparent is his inability to read plays and his lack of foot speed. This combination puts him consistently a step behind, if not several steps. This glaring shortcoming could be mitigated with better positioning, but I have yet to see any progress from him on this front. It also doesn't help that he doesn't have great hands. So even carving out a bottom six defensive role at the NHL level is a tall order.

Lavoie, who I have liked since his draft year, by comparison doesn't have great foot speed either. But the difference is Lavoie anticipates the play much better and goes to the difficult areas. He has a nose for the net and is adept at getting his stick on loose pucks. He still projects as a bottom six at this point, but a bottom six that can pot 10-15 garbage goals a season is still an asset. He also uses his size to create space on the ice. Where Schwindt is usually chasing the play, so any space he could conceivably create is an afterthought.

Not trying to come down on a 22 year old too hard here. Just not seeing enough here to warrant him still contending for a roster spot at the NHL level.
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I got to see Lavoie a few years back live at one of the pre-season games, and I liked what I saw at time, for reasons you stated above.
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