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Old 04-11-2023, 09:20 AM   #21
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Interesting ... more likely to get concussed in women's hockey or in coed?

I coached girls' hockey for years in Calgary, but my daughter was always at the lowest levels and hitting would clearly be a bad thing.

Always assumed in higher tier non coed levels it would work.

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Full contact coed, plenty of girls still play in the lower, non contact tiers.

There are still concussions in high level female obviously but you would consider it manageable and just part of the game. If you introduced full contact, it would spike and spike quickly.

My oldest played AAA U18 female and you definitely have girls there that COULD play full contact from a skills and size perspective, but it just simply doesn't change the physiological components. Could that handful of girls go and play full contact? Sure. but they are way more likely than the boys they are playing against to get a concussion.

I guess it would come down to a parent or players willingness to roll the dice but I think our job is to protect our kids and make sure everyone is safe. Most parents of females that I know that want full contact, have that one kid who would crush everyone.
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Old 04-11-2023, 09:25 AM   #23
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Full contact coed, plenty of girls still play in the lower, non contact tiers.

There are still concussions in high level female obviously but you would consider it manageable and just part of the game. If you introduced full contact, it would spike and spike quickly.

My oldest played AAA U18 female and you definitely have girls there that COULD play full contact from a skills and size perspective, but it just simply doesn't change the physiological components. Could that handful of girls go and play full contact? Sure. but they are way more likely than the boys they are playing against to get a concussion.

I guess it would come down to a parent or players willingness to roll the dice but I think our job is to protect our kids and make sure everyone is safe. Most parents of females that I know that want full contact, have that one kid who would crush everyone.
But what about just A level girl on girl hockey (Calgary Fire)? No guys on the ice?

Then concussions would be similar to guys?
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But what about just A level girl on girl hockey (Calgary Fire)? No guys on the ice?

Then concussions would be similar to guys?
I would have to go back into a deep dive but I think it is simply a count vs registrations so it would probably be comparing girls concussed in the female stream vs boys in the coed stream (non contact-city league, RHL etc). So the 2 x would apply but some of that would be elite so guessing slightly lower in all female A. Same rules in elite but more aggression and the refs are better overall.

Our U15A female team had 5 concussions this year and 4 were whiplash, one was an accidental knee. Two were the same girl but she was proper cleared after the first one.
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You can almost see them thinking 'I know this is a brawl, I've seen it on old hockey tapes but I'm not actually sure what to do'
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I like when the yellow goalie goes to hit some players in the back who are already wrestled to the ground. Red goalie is just chillin' leaning on the goal, then notices and realizes she needs to go through some motions...then goes back to leaning on the goal.
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I would have to go back into a deep dive but I think it is simply a count vs registrations so it would probably be comparing girls concussed in the female stream vs boys in the coed stream (non contact-city league, RHL etc). So the 2 x would apply but some of that would be elite so guessing slightly lower in all female A. Same rules in elite but more aggression and the refs are better overall.

Our U15A female team had 5 concussions this year and 4 were whiplash, one was an accidental knee. Two were the same girl but she was proper cleared after the first one.
Because if elite girls playing against elite girls get the same ratio of concussions as the boys, they should be playing contact hockey.

Boys don't play contact in lower leagues either.
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I'll chime in. First, I have pictures of my great aunts playing hockey in 1890 in Edmonton. As a very young girl that inspired me and I started playing on a boys team as a five year old in Edmonton, 1968. I wasn't allowed, but when they found out mid season, they let me stay. So I have played hockey 55 years, and played co-rec including now over 60 co-rec for the majority of the time. Most adult recreational hockey is generally contact- no check.- essentially the women's rules.
The women's game has evolved tremendously, and yes I have played AAA senior womens. It is a fast game, with a ton of good contact, women have really learned to play angles, and body positioning, that far exceeds most co-rec men's league individual skills, where they learned to hit first, instead of learning to play the puck. I have also been a ref for the last ten years at all levels including boys high school, where all they think about is the next hit.
Why add checking into women's hockey? Why not accept it for the game that we love and have created? Why does it have to be the same as men's or disregarded?. It is a different game, we are smaller, and less muscled. A very high end Olympic caliber women's player, even Hailey Wickenheiser is not really successful in the hitting leagues.
There are many of you that haven't watched a US/Can women's Olympic final or even U18. It is physical and fast, but a different game. I hope more of you will take the opportunity to watch it, but if not, let it be the game we, the women that play it, love.
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Because if elite girls playing against elite girls get the same ratio of concussions as the boys, they should be playing contact hockey.

Boys don't play contact in lower leagues either.
I wasn't talking about elite at all on that reply. A is not elite.

Elite girls would have more concussions than house boys.
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