What is the deal with Elliotte Friedman?

[Toonage]

Would Darryl burn an entire year to make a point to someone? And if that were the case would you want that person coaching another year on the off chance he does it again? Crazy.

[Locke]

Well...he's not Airline peanuts, so he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

He speculated that Kadri didn’t play in OT against Dallas because he went off on Sutter. Claims it’s plausible because Kadri speaks his mind and as proof of this referenced the “kiss my ass” interview after he won the Stanley Cup.

Yeah, this is what bugs me. I don't know if he has anything against the Flames or not, but he does seem to speculate a lot potential drama around the Flames. He wasn't really reporting anything, it was just his thoughts. Some people then jump to conclusions based on his speculation, which is more on them than Friedman.

[dino7c]

Kadri didn't play in OT because of previous OT performances


case closed

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Would Darryl burn an entire year to make a point to someone? And if that were the case would you want that person coaching another year on the off chance he does it again? Crazy.

to make a point to Murray Edwards? Maybe.
I don't think he'd look at as burning the year but demonstrating how he doesn't have what he needs.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yeah, this is what bugs me. I don't know if he has anything against the Flames or not, but he does seem to speculate a lot potential drama around the Flames. He wasn't really reporting anything, it was just his thoughts. Some people then jump to conclusions based on his speculation, which is more on them than Friedman.

He is not the only person to make comments this year on things not being great internally with the Flames.

So...I don't understand why people are getting upset over what he said on this podcast. It fits with what we've heard from other sources. I don't take what he said as speculation.

Look at this team/organization - why are any of us getting defensive over stuff we don't know anything about? If we just look at the complete lack of success, recent history of star players leaving...do you think things are going well in Flames land?

Friedman doesn't make stuff up.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Would Darryl burn an entire year to make a point to someone? And if that were the case would you want that person coaching another year on the off chance he does it again? Crazy.

If that is so, this is a good year to do it and then the team goes on to place 1st in the west and wins the cup next year, with assets to build on for years to come.

[White Out 403]

Whats next on 31 thoughts, Winnipeg is an unattractive location for players? #### you Friedman!

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Which is more plausible, that Elliotte Friedman has some kind of personal vendetta against Calgary and wants to ruin them for unknown reasons,

OR

The Flames as an organization has been ran horribly for over 30 years and are still horribly managed?

I don't think Friedman has some anti-Flames agenda. We cheer for a poorly managed organization. The results speak for themselves.

Say what you want about the organization, but I hope Sutter is on Kadri. He's been crap for nearly 2 months now and this team needs the top players playing up to their levels. Same goes for Huberdeau (even a decent second half from him would have this team in a playoff spot) who can't even come close to mustering a PPG run.

What's the alternative? A coach that just let's these guys slump and doesn't demand more? Let's see how that works in the post season.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Whats next on 31 thoughts, Winnipeg is an unattractive location for players? #### you Friedman!

He’s not going to use his time to say what everyone already knows.

[Toonage]

^ How did Bednar handle Kadri? Seemed to get him under control, though it took a while.

Also, has Kadri been crap for 2 months because he doesn't understand or accept whats being asked of him or what isn't being communicated to him?

Kadri started the year off well. Then the Oiler game, then the changes, and here we are.

[Ferarri]

This season has been the worst. No positives and I can see how everyone is frustrated including players, coaches and management. The lack of communication is worrisome and everyone needs to be better. However, at this point we've seen enough and I don't see a damn thing changing between now and end of the season. Truly a pathetic season and seems like a dark cloud over this team. Honestly I'm a firm believer that everyone plays a role and this isn't just on one person. Sutter will take most of the blame since he is the leader (and deservedly so), but for this team to be better it starts from the top and works it's way down. Need all parties to be accountable.

As far as Friedman, he's doing a job and honestly controversy is a good thing for his business. Generates interest and clicks. Not saying he's wrong, but this is just another prime example of how bad this season has been.

[Erick Estrada]

Hockey fans crave rumours like no other fans yet for some strange reason a lot of Flames fans just can't stomach it when the juicy stuff involves the Flames. Fans here seem to love if when there insiders trot out the rumours of issues within the Oilers, Canucks, Leafs, etc so it's one of those things were you have to accept that the Flames are not immune to having internal issues within the organization.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Would Darryl burn an entire year to make a point to someone? And if that were the case would you want that person coaching another year on the off chance he does it again? Crazy.

You know the answer to all those questions.

[calumniate]

I think Elliotte has really confused himself. He started off trying to be an impartial newsbreaker and was pretty good at it. Now that he's busy with his podcasting etc., he's become more of a pundit.

Personally I can't stand him now

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

He speculated that Kadri didn’t play in OT against Dallas because he went off on Sutter. Claims it’s plausible because Kadri speaks his mind and as proof of this referenced the “kiss my ass” interview after he won the Stanley Cup.

I would bet he didn’t play in OT because himself and Huberdeau are massive liabilities during 3 on 3.

Guessing it’s a demotion. Just like Lucic disappearing.

[OldSam]

Lost my respect for the guy with the "don't touch McBaby" and the right-of-way comments. I think he is just blithering now, with a tiny bit of truth.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

How could anyone be shocked about this latest bit of news?

We have a typically high performing forward who's having a horrible season production wise. We have a well known for being acerbic coach. Coach has multiple times publicly stated that the team doesn't have adequate talent up front, or not putting in enough effort. Then the coach puts the player with two of the biggest plugs in the organization for a game.

Of course this player is mad.

This isn't accurate.

20-21 Kadri was playing at a 46 points pace.
19-20, 57 point pace.
18-19, 50 point pace.
17-18, 56 point pace.

He'c currently playing at a 57 point pace. This is almost exactly his career average production, which is pretty good for a 32-year old.

Last year was an anomaly, as expected.

[Cycling76er]

I have no respect for anyone that chooses to use CAL instead of CGY.

[iggyloob12]

Rumours of a toxic Darryl cloud do not surprise at all. We know from Sutter's first go-around with the team that he doesn't like it when people disagree with him. Heck, it was rumoured that he wasn't even talking to his brother at one point when they were coach-GM.