[Game Takes] Flames 1 Wild 0 (shootout)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Troll-a-lol.

Two very unconvincing wins and you really want to trot that out?

I think the Flames have played very very well in 4 of their last 5 games. The other Wild game was the only stinker. Flames deserved wins against Boston and Toronto.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Seriously dude?

Did that team look like one that had quit on its coach?

Nothing to do with winning or not. Teams that have checked out do not put out that kind of effort nor react the way they did.

Unless the narrative is now they are going to win/effort just to spite the head coach?

Just about every statistic, both counting and analytical, would suggest this group has been involved all year, but simply have been unable to finish or get adequate goaltending the majority of the season.

Or do you have some insight that tells you different?

If so, I'm all ears.

I would think it would be tough to quit on your coach and still put up top five share metrics across the board.

That's execution, not effort. It's been the case all season.

[SportsJunky]

Did Calgary play well? I didn't watch the game but I thought I saw that they were out shot by a large margin.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Did Calgary play well? I didn't watch the game but I thought I saw that they were out shot by a large margin.

Massively outplayed in the end.

You could see them fade midway through the second period with the rough travel day.

[mennoknight]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I’ve been constantly critical of that 4th line, but I didn’t know it was that bad. The Flames cannot have a weakness like that when they have other options like Duehr. If the Flames replaced Lucic with Duehr, replaced Dube with Ruzicka, and replaced Ritchie with Dube, that would be close to ideal, IMO.

Pelletier - Lindholm - Toffoli
Dube - Kadri - Huberdeau
Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman
Duehr - Ruzicka - Lewis

That’s fine. Just do that, please.

why not:

Pelletier-Lindholm-Huberdeau
Dube-Kadri-Toffoli
MBC
Duehr - Ruzicka - Lewis

the obvious answer seems so obvious.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by browna

A bunch of posters noticeably absent from the GT and PGT; was hoping one or two would’ve gotten caught in the premature PGT with one of their prepared hot take diatribes in writing the Flames epitaphs.

Oh a few were ready but went back and edited their posts.

Seems a lot of people want Sutter fired because of the abysmal goalie play this year.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by mennoknight

why not:

Pelletier-Lindholm-Huberdeau
Dube-Kadri-Toffoli
MBC
Duehr - Ruzicka - Lewis

the obvious answer seems so obvious.

I like the top 6 as you’ve got it better than what I proposed, but I guess I was just focused on fixing the 4th line in my post. If we could get that, I’d love it.

As a fellow mennoknight, I love your username.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think the Flames have played very very well in 4 of their last 5 games. The other Wild game was the only stinker. Flames deserved wins against Boston and Toronto.

Yeah, it’s absurd to accuse someone of trolling who is just pointing out that this looks nothing like a team that has “quit.” But you get what you pay for with some posters.

The last two games especially, along with the Boston game, stick out as a team that is absolutely giving it. To pull out the win last night took some serious guts (and a stellar Markstrom performance) especially given how bagged they looked by the end.

People who do nothing but rag on the team are going to continue ragging in the team. Fair enough, as they’ve given them lots of ammo this season. But it’s funny to watch as their takes grow more divorced from reality.

[mennoknight]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I like the top 6 as you’ve got it better than what I proposed, but I guess I was just focused on fixing the 4th line in my post. If we could get that, I’d love it.

As a fellow mennoknight, I love your username.

I'm sure we're related somehow then. Oba yo

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by D as in David

When is Mangiapane going to do something dangerous offensively again? The guy hasn't been threatening for a long time, it seems.

I thought he had a couple of really good chances to score in the Dallas game. The problem is that he can't finish, which seems to be his problem for a long time. He hasn't been on a scoring pace since is hot streak during the first half of last season when his shooting percentage was over 20%.

At $5.8million/year, he's paid based on a 35-goal season. A 35-goal player scores every 2.5 games or so. Perhaps $6m/year is now the going rate for a 20-goal player, but even then should be scoring goals every 4 games.

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[Erick Estrada]

I don't think a lot has changed of late in regards to the play of the team outside of Markstrom finally playing to the level he did last season over the last four games. Kind of makes you wonder where the team would be today in the standings had he been able to play this way most of the season.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't think a lot has changed of late in regards to the play of the team outside of Markstrom finally playing to the level he did last season over the last four games. Kind of makes you wonder where the team would be today in the standings had he been able to play this way most of the season.

Last night though they got filled in though (so not playing as well as they usually do)

That's a 5-1 loss by most metrics.

But yeah even Markstrom at 90% of last night and the team is in 2nd in the division.

[Erick Estrada]

I chalk up last night to a long travel between back to back games. Markstrom held them in which is something he's not done much of this season.

[edslunch]

Very happy they won, Markstrom sure seems to have turned a corner, the team not so much. They blew another two goal lead the other night and for the 15th(?) time gave Markstrom 1 goal or less support. Markstrom has had a bad season by any measure, but even if he had been good it's tough to win with that scoring. If the Flames are to have a chance they need both good good goaltending and better/more timely scoring.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I chalk up last night to a long travel between back to back games. Markstrom held them in which is something he's not done much of this season.

A plan ride from Dallas to Minnesota is 2 hours 20 minutes almost same distance to Vancouver.

Its not like they have a lot of stuff to take care of, everything for them is taken care of accommodation meals etc.

I saw a quote from Josh Hard for the Knicks this is light work for most of these guys you work 2-3 hours a day, most people wake up 6am and grind 12 hours jobs so energy and effort should be an issue.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

A plan ride from Dallas to Minnesota is 2 hours 20 minutes almost same distance to Vancouver.

Its not like they have a lot of stuff to take care of, everything for them is taken care of accommodation meals etc.

I saw a quote from Josh Hard for the Knicks this is light work for most of these guys you work 2-3 hours a day, most people wake up 6am and grind 12 hours jobs so energy and effort should be an issue.

Flight time is one thing. They started the game at 7:30 Dallas time IIRC, they finished at 10:30 or so, probably manage to get on the plan by midnite, get into Minnie at 2:30 am, got into hotel maybe 3:30. That's gotta be tough on the body clock.

[D as in David]

They are finally starting to get their share of puck luck, as well. As an example, there was an early 2 on 1 against where Markstrom kicked out the rebound to his right and, with a wide open net, the puck bounced over the Wild player's stick. In earlier games this season, that puck would have been lying flat on the ice and an easy tap in for the opponents.

Kaprizov's hitting of the post in the shootout is another example. Speaking of whom, despite the Flames getting caved in somewhat, I thought they did a really good job shutting Kaprizov down.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

A plan ride from Dallas to Minnesota is 2 hours 20 minutes almost same distance to Vancouver.

Its not like they have a lot of stuff to take care of, everything for them is taken care of accommodation meals etc.

I saw a quote from Josh Hard for the Knicks this is light work for most of these guys you work 2-3 hours a day, most people wake up 6am and grind 12 hours jobs so energy and effort should be an issue.

This game was also 3rd in 4 nights, back to back, on the road. These are often referred to as scheduled losses. Sutter always reminds people that the travel aspect is a bigger element than most realize.

I actually wonder if it’s a small part of Huberdeau’s struggles this years given he’s used to a much lighter travel schedule out east.

[Flame On]

I think the smoothing out of the D by not having to have a Wrangler or Stone in there has already started to pay dividends, on top of Markstrom being "back".

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

A plan ride from Dallas to Minnesota is 2 hours 20 minutes almost same distance to Vancouver.

Its not like they have a lot of stuff to take care of, everything for them is taken care of accommodation meals etc.

I saw a quote from Josh Hard for the Knicks this is light work for most of these guys you work 2-3 hours a day, most people wake up 6am and grind 12 hours jobs so energy and effort should be an issue.

Gotcha so the whole back to back and games in 3 of 4 thing is a fraud!

Excuse making babies!