03-03-2023, 01:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I picture Treliving's meeting with other GMs go something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga5X6WnC8Qo&t=485s
Just subsitute "lawyer" for GM.
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03-03-2023, 01:20 PM
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#22
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
I’m all for it. The answers are in the room and the next GM can renovate the roster this summer. Maybe it’ll be Sutter?
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Sutter as GM...........you wash your mouth out. That's a brutal thing to say.
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03-03-2023, 01:20 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Done for the day? Did Treliving even start?
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03-03-2023, 01:20 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
The choice was either "tear-it-down" or "do nothing". They made their choice. Time will tell if this was the right choice.
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And it's not like "Tear it down" can't just happen at the draft or in the summer.
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03-03-2023, 01:21 PM
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#25
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First Line Centre
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Just glad nothing stupid was done. That's a win in my opinion.
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03-03-2023, 01:21 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Alright, trade deadline complete.
Well put me in the “hope these losers lose every single game left this season” camp.
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03-03-2023, 01:21 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by btimbit
Not sure what people were expecting when we aren't buyers and have no pending UFA's of value to sell
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Guys like Toffoli and Tanev would have more value now than they would as UFAs.
Plus, they'd be trading high for both of them. A rarity for this franchise. And this is a better draft, especially in the first round.
Everyone expected the Flames to do what they did today. But some had hope for something better.
With that said, knowing the Flames, they will be contenders next year while many people are on their UFA year.
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03-03-2023, 01:22 PM
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#28
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Building for the future, two UFA's who do nothing! Lets get that Cuuuuppppppppp
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03-03-2023, 01:22 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The Flames actually had more activity today than I thought they would.
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03-03-2023, 01:22 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Please delete “for the day”.
Now waiting for the Treliving resignation presser.
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03-03-2023, 01:22 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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Cue the "we were in a lot of trades. We had a lot of discussions, but ultimately price didn't make sense" BS from Tre
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03-03-2023, 01:22 PM
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#32
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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03-03-2023, 01:23 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Reign of Fire
Cue the "we were in a lot of trades. We had a lot of discussions, but ultimately price didn't make sense" BS from Tre
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Paging Pepsi, your collection is complete!
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03-03-2023, 01:23 PM
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#34
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Sutter as GM...........you wash your mouth out. That's a brutal thing to say.
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I’m 100% all in on Sutter as GM. Chaos is more interesting than mediocrity
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03-03-2023, 01:24 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Guys like Toffoli and Tanev would have more value now than they would as UFAs.
Plus, they'd be trading high for both of them. A rarity for this franchise. And this is a better draft, especially in the first round.
Everyone expected the Flames to do what they did today. But some had hope for something better.
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again, I just don't understand this argument. It's not like teams have been shelling out assets for players with another year on their deal ... Nashville got a 2nd each for Niederreiter and Granlund. That's not a whole lot.
In the summer, you can give them permission to talk contract with another team, which might max out the value. I highly doubt you could get more for Toffoli or Hanifin now than in the summer.
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03-03-2023, 01:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
again, I just don't understand this argument. It's not like teams have been shelling out assets for players with another year on their deal ... Nashville got a 2nd each for Niederreiter and Granlund. That's not a whole lot.
In the summer, you can give them permission to talk contract with another team, which might max out the value. I highly doubt you could get more for Toffoli or Hanifin now than in the summer.
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Completely different. Granlund is not cap efficient. Toffoli is.
Cap efficiency provides even more value when there is term remaining.
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03-03-2023, 01:25 PM
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#37
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
And it's not like "Tear it down" can't just happen at the draft or in the summer.
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Yeah I agree.
My point is that the dumbest things the flames could have done today is a half-teardown where they trade a guy like Backlund or Lindholm. They didn't do that.
The correct choice is to keep the team together until they make a decision that they're leaving "win now" mode. And at that point, you tear it down hard and fast.
What the Flames did today wasn't dumb. It makes a lot of sense. If they don't have a definitive answer as to why the season was a failure - and I don't think any of us do - then being patient until you have the correct answer is the right thing to do.
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03-03-2023, 01:25 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
I’m 100% all in on Sutter as GM. Chaos is more interesting than mediocrity
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He cannot be any worse than Treliving who will go down as the worst asset manager, extension negotiator and trade maker that this team has ever had.
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03-03-2023, 01:25 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Completely different. Granlund is not cap efficient. Toffoli is.
Cap efficiency provides even more value when there is term remaining.
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and he won't be less cap efficient if you trade him in the summer.
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03-03-2023, 01:26 PM
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#40
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Looch City
Grey Cup here we come!
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Calder Cup you mean! But without Zohorna...
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