Enough is enough - Bring up Wolf.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Major Major

What is the risk? Give him some games. Sorry, I know some of this season is on Darryl, but if we'd had league average goaltending to this point we'd win the division and would still be complaining about goaltending. And the crazy thing is we could still make noise if we had a hot goalie who gets on a roll.

The risk of him coming in and things not going his way and affecting his confidence with a coach like Sutter? Who seems to be in love with a sieve and call out everyone else? No thanks.

This is the problem, the make belief theory that we could make some noise lol. As #### as markstrom is you think that's the only problem? We have 0 clutch scoring, our first line centre is hardly noticeable on a lot of nights, Huberdeau is fighting it, Kadri seems to have lost interest, we have 3 2nd lines and no game breakers. This team has next to no chance in the playoffs, whether they get it together or not.

Quit thinking short term and start thinking long term, this franchise can't stop thinking about some fluke miracle run, that it affects how they manage the god damn team.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Royle9

As much as I want to see Wolf up too, I simply worry about the product in front of him.

Would be a shame to rattle the confidence of our shining star on the farm, AHL goalie of the year 2 years in a row here.

I’d rather he have a chance winning a championship down in the A.
Would you want to play in front of these bums?
Let him stay apart of a winning culture down there and let this toxic group finish it out and clean it out come the off-season.

Flames allow among the least shots per game in the NHL

They usually only start reverting to bums when the goalie deflates them by allowing a goal on the first 1-5 shots

I don't buy this angle.

[Caged Great]

Honestly I think the team in front of the goalie is doing a good enough job. If you aren't worried about each shot going near the goalie going in, you can play with a lot more confidence. That's why they went on that run with Vladar.

If you have a goalie that actually makes a difficult save, this team might be damn near unbeatable. It's when you're giving up 3-4 goals against each game on saveable shots, its hard to get confidence.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Even calling up Wolf for 2 games might light a fire under these two guys

Nothing to threaten their positions to this point, and their play is reflecting as much

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Honestly I think the team in front of the goalie is doing a good enough job. If you aren't worried about each shot going near the goalie going in, you can play with a lot more confidence. That's why they went on that run with Vladar.

If you have a goalie that actually make a difficult save, this team might be damn near unbeatable. It's when you're giving up 3-4 goals against each game on saveable shots, its hard to get confidence.

And maybe they are, maybe the team is doing a good enough job. Does that make them a threat in the playoffs when the hockey intensifies x100000? Their is a distinction.

[Slava]

The other downside is you completely crater Markstrom and whatever sliver of confidence he has left. Not exactly a great message to send to your number one who still has a contract to finish.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Slava

The other downside is you completely crater Markstrom and whatever sliver of confidence he has left. Not exactly a great message to send to your number one who still has a contract to finish.

Sadly this would be my last worry.
He can accept a trade or ride out his last years as a backup.

The guy hasn’t earned anything.

[Snuffleupagus]

Since turning pro

65W - 17L - 5T - 2.26GAA - 0.926Pct

His teammates over that time.

26W - 29L - 6T - 3.23GAA - 0.887Pct

Stunning

But but but...only 6' tall

[mile]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Since turning pro

65W - 17L - 5T - 2.26GAA - 0.926Pct

His teammates over that time.

26W - 29L - 6T - 3.23GAA - 0.887Pct

Stunning

But but but...only 6' tall

Funny enough Kiprusoff and Quick were the two best goalies Sutter ever had and they were only 6'1"

[Poe969]

Call it a season and give Wolf a shot next year. Don't make him play for this team this year.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Slava

The other downside is you completely crater Markstrom and whatever sliver of confidence he has left. Not exactly a great message to send to your number one who still has a contract to finish.

I think Markstrom already knows how bad he is.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Slava

The other downside is you completely crater Markstrom and whatever sliver of confidence he has left. Not exactly a great message to send to your number one who still has a contract to finish.

There is no upside in Markstrom. Zero.

The only question left is when do they have the courage or can afford to get rid of him. The biggest choker in the game today

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Call it a season and give Wolf a shot next year. Don't make him play for this team this year.

This team isn't that bad, without Marky playing like a sieve and giving up back breaking untimely goals we'd likely be fighting for the division lead.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

He needs to be bought out, quite frankly.

0 signs of a turnaround, or even a regression to average play

He was given so much runway with starts, leeway from coaches, and assurance from his teammates

They've done as much as they could to soften the blows and provide him with positive reinforcement. He hasn't been able to respond

Put a fork in it. It's a winning business, not one for coddling players that have fallen from grace

[Aarongavey]

The last time I can remember a team calling up a AHL goalie as young as Wolf was the Pens with Murray. And they actually had a good starter.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Royle9

As much as I want to see Wolf up too, I simply worry about the product in front of him.

Would be a shame to rattle the confidence of our shining star on the farm, AHL goalie of the year 2 years in a row here.

I’d rather he have a chance winning a championship down in the A.
Would you want to play in front of these bums?
Let him stay apart of a winning culture down there and let this toxic group finish it out and clean it out come the off-season.

This team is 2nd in the league behind Carolina in shots against.

But they’re 16th in Goals against.

They don’t hang their goalies out to dry, their goalies suck.

Send the Wolf. I hear solving problems is his thing.

[malcolmk14]

With the hockey game tied, Markstrom has an .876 sv% (79th out of 86 NHL goalies who have played this season). He is -10.77 in Goals Saved vs. Expected (86th out of 86 goalies).

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

With the hockey game tied, Markstrom has an .876 sv% (79th out of 86 NHL goalies who have played this season). He is -10.77 in Goals Saved vs. Expected (86th out of 86 goalies).

Jesus. No wonder some people here are convinced the team sucks.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by CGY12

And maybe they are, maybe the team is doing a good enough job. Does that make them a threat in the playoffs when the hockey intensifies x100000? Their is a distinction.

2013-14 Kings: 25th in goals for, 1st in goals against - Won Stanley cup.
2012-13 Kings: 9th GF, 8th GA - Lost WCF
2011-12 Kings: 29th GF, 2nd GA - Won Stanley Cup

2003-04 Flames: 19th GF, 3rd GA - Lost SCF
2005-06 Flames: 28th GF, 1st GA - won division, lost 1st round.

Sutter is the coach you want when you have an elite goalie.

Without an elite goalie, it isn’t possible to play the way he wants to play and win.

I’ve got no major love for this group, but they’d be minimum 10 points better if they just got the goaltending they got last year.

The only feasible way to fix this is to bring up Wolf and let him run with it.

You want him to be your starter for the next 15 years anyway - no time like the present.

Show us what you got, kid.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

With the hockey game tied, Markstrom has an .876 sv% (79th out of 86 NHL goalies who have played this season). He is -10.77 in Goals Saved vs. Expected (86th out of 86 goalies).

Simply put, he is killing them.