Missing the net by an inch is beating the goaltender and missing the post by an inch.
I don't see a huge difference between that and hitting the post.
Right, but there is a huge difference between that and missing the net by 12 inches. I think the difference is meaningful. When a player misses the net by a foot he is not beating the goaltender.
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I get a post is pretty darn close, and yeah, being at the top probably points to some bad luck, but sometimes you didn't actually beat the goalie because they were hugging the post and you didn't have any net to hit.
Right, but there is a huge difference between that and missing the net by 12 inches. I think the difference is meaningful. When a player misses the net by a foot he is not beating the goaltender.
Correct. It's a spectrum and I don't see why we'd draw the line at posts, other than it's the only thing we can quantify. The problem though is that the information overall isn't all that useful in telling us anything.
Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting stat and I can't help but wonder what things would look like if even a few of those had been a few inches different but that's where I go back to any other shot that misses the net. Or even shots that hit the goalie's pad/glove/blocker. What if they were an inch or two different?
Ultimately, any shot that doesn't go in is simply not a goal and I don't think much can be learned from any of it except that we seem to be good at hitting posts this year.
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Hitting a post is beating a goaltender and then literally missing by an inch ... shouldn't be grouped into missing the net entirely in my opinion.
But no I'm certainly not suggesting this is the difference between 1st wildcard and 1st in the division.
Not all posts are equal, I'd say. Hitting the outside of the post, when the goaltender is giving nothing to shoot at isn't unlucky. Hitting the inside of the post and coming right back out is unlucky. We've had a mix of both, but I'd guess we've had more inside the post type shots lately.
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It's a frustrating stat to think about. I could buy that we might have 3-4 more goals, but at the end of the day you're just the golfer who complains about how much he lips out. Time to start dropping' em boys
It's a frustrating stat to think about. I could buy that we might have 3-4 more goals, but at the end of the day you're just the golfer who complains about how much he lips out. Time to start dropping' em boys
Hockey like golf is a game of inches and when the confidence is high those putts go in and those pucks go bar down or post in.
Funny part is you can hit a gazillion posts/crossbars per year but it does not affect your shooting percentage!
I'm with Cecil, the post is a missed shot. The margins on beating goalies is so low these days, that's often why posts are hit..it was all the shooter had. If a skilled shooter has 3 inches between the goalies shoulder and the crossbar and hits the crossbar, he wasn't able to beat the goalie.
My feeling is more posts comes from more low angle, low percentage shots where the goalie is set and you're just hoping to find a hole, which our team takes a lot of.
I’m with Cecil on this. Hitting the post and missing the net by an inch are about the same. Unless there is a stat that tracks total distance missed divided by number of shots, I’m not putting much weight on a stat that is based on whether you hear a certain noise when a shot misses.
Should we start tracking if a goalie makes the save in the middle of his glove or with the edge of it.
But it’s a fun thing for sure. It feels different when a shot rings off the post.
I’m with Cecil on this. Hitting the post and missing the net by an inch are about the same. Unless there is a stat that tracks total distance missed divided by number of shots, I’m not putting much weight on a stat that is based on whether you hear a certain noise when a shot misses.
Should we start tracking if a goalie makes the save in the middle of his glove or with the edge of it.
But it’s a fun thing for sure. It feels different when a shot rings off the post.
Yeah, it's an "oooh" moment for the crowd, that's why the focus on it. But ultimately you were close but didn't beat the goalie, didn't score. And with goalies now a days, scoring is a game of inches. The inches that hit the post are the same as the inches that miss the post by an inch. Close but no cigar.
