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Old 01-05-2023, 01:56 PM   #21
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And throughout his career when Markstrom plays too often, he gets hurt.

If, and only then, will we see Wolf brought up. And thats not even a certainty as Vladar will get the starts. May as well let Wolf keep playing in the A and Dansk can sit on the bench here.
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Old 01-05-2023, 01:56 PM   #22
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keep two good goalies and see how Wolf does if there is an injury. Pencilling in a rookie to step into a major role without any runway is setting them up to fail, which is what is done up in Mulletville.
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As for Kylington, he also isn't going anywhere but they are rapidly getting to a point where player & team need to make a decision
I don't think they are getting to any breaking point at all. It seems the Flames with his smaller salary and clearly serious situation, are willing to just give him whatever time and space he needs, even it means missing this whole year.

The most the Flames will do is retroactively put him on LTIR around the trade deadline if they have a trade line up and need more cap space.

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Not at all, if Markstrom finds his game then Sutter will ride him like never before. The backup will see little to no action. May as well be Wolf sitting on his butt.
How is he doing to develop sitting on his butt?
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I don't think they are at all. It seems the Flames with his smaller salary and clearly serious situation, are willing to just give him whatever time and space he needs, even it means missing this whole year.
They bank cap space with penny squeezing attention to detail. If Oliver says he can't go this year, they'll want that cap to spend at the deadline
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Trading Markstrom is a bit extreme, especially as it would make some players angry (if he is playing good). But I do think that we should have Wolf as back-up at the start of next season, nothing against Vladar but we barely play him and I think Wolf is a future all star and should do just fine as back up already. Plus we can get some nice assets for Vladar especially as he has 2 more years after this one on a good deal
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Trading Markstrom is a bit extreme, especially as it would make some players angry (if he is playing good). But I do think that we should have Wolf as back-up at the start of next season, nothing against Vladar but we barely play him and I think Wolf is a future all star and should do just fine as back up already. Plus we can get some nice assets for Vladar especially as he has 2 more years after this one on a good deal
Ok, so move Vladar, what is the return?
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Trading Markstrom is a bit extreme, especially as it would make some players angry (if he is playing good). But I do think that we should have Wolf as back-up at the start of next season, nothing against Vladar but we barely play him and I think Wolf is a future all star and should do just fine as back up already. Plus we can get some nice assets for Vladar especially as he has 2 more years after this one on a good deal
If they barely play the backup, why bring up Wolf then? The kid is becoming a terrific goalie in the minors, and he's pretty darn young. He doesn't need to stop playing just because he's seemingly graduated.
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Ok, so move Vladar, what is the return?
Or, keep both and leave Wolfe to develop in the minors


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How is he doing to develop sitting on his butt?
I would rather Wolf sit on his butt and then move Vladar. I think the interest in him or Markstrom might be pretty good.
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Ok, so move Vladar, what is the return?
If he has a strong end of the year, I think a late first is a possibility, but also we could trade him at the trade deadline to a team that is looking for a goalie
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Ok, so move Vladar, what is the return?
Probably something that isn’t worth bothering with. Slightly better than what the Flames gave up to get him
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If he has a strong end of the year, I think a late first is a possibility, but also we could trade him at the trade deadline to a team that is looking for a goalie
We need help now.
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They bank cap space with penny squeezing attention to detail. If Oliver says he can't go this year, they'll want that cap to spend at the deadline
Sorry, it seemed from your first post that you weren't simply referring to an LTIR placement at the trade deadline, it seemed more like you were implying something needs to give soon

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As for Kylington, he also isn't going anywhere but they are rapidly getting to a point where player & team need to make a decision
There doesn't need to be any rapid decisions made between player and team. The cap space will be retroactive to all the time he's missed, which will give us more cap space for a deadline pick up, and then Kylington could still come back later in the season.
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Wolf would still get ~20 games as a back up, that is more than enough in his first NHL year. I only suggest trading Vladar so that we can get some assets, because Wolf is untouchable
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I strongly disagree.
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We need help now.
Ya you can trade him for a player, it is just easier to think of trades in terms of draft capital. You can also trade whatever you get for Vladar for some help now
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You aren’t getting a single asset for either during the season . Why even have this discussion now ?
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Old 01-05-2023, 02:11 PM   #40
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Trade him to Edmonton for Draisaitl and a 1st a with Kylington.

good trade for Edmonton with Campbell being the suck, Skinner already looking worn down and they Kylington would become their defacto number one defenseman
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