Does Treliving deserve to be extended?

[Burning Beard]

Yes he does.

[FlamingHomer]

I would think being an NHL GM is much easier with experience. You understand the contracts better, you have relationships with other GM's and a more educated view of the value of your own and other team's players. I'm in favour of keeping Treliving especially versus bringing in an inexperienced person.

[Bleeding Red]

Just read an article the other day (forget where) speculating that if he is not signed then BT is the top target for Shanahan & TML, should TML not get out of the 1st round again.

Could there be a bit of a power struggle in CGY?

[Hockey_Ninja]

What’s the alternative? Because if it’s a worse GM then they might as well just extend him. I like Brad overall. He’s made his mistakes but he’s also done good things for this franchise

[1qqaaz]

No real opinion one way or the other.
It depends who else is available/willing to manage the Flames. Otherwise, probably not.

[Roof-Daddy]

If they don't extend him or promote him he will be snapped up by some other team pretty quickly I imagine.

[Since1984]

I fully expect ownership to wait until the team makes the playoffs to extend Treliving, as for my opinion. There is no reason he shouldn't be extended, what he was able to do with the circumstances he was given was admirable.

Give him a 3 year extension.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

If they don't extend him or promote him he will be snapped up by some other team pretty quickly I imagine.

100% geography is the only thing holding him back here

[Sylvanfan]

He should get extended. Players don't veto trades to Florida or Vegas. Murray Edward's doesn't seem content to bring in Pat Verbeek to induce an all out tanking. He's done about as well as you can given the parameters he has to work with.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Treliving has made many mistakes in his time with the Flames, but he's also had some really big wins. I think you have to look at the overall health of the organization and make the call based on that. Treliving has burned through draft picks which leaves the team in a tough spot. The one thing that makes me believe he deserves an extension (a two-year extension) is how he recovered from the Gaudreau/Tkachuk situation. Even though it was self-inflicted he managed to come away with some good assets and turned them into a new core for the club. I think he has earned an opportunity to see what comes of that core. With the massive number of contracts ending in short order I think his tenure should be tied to those. Get over the hump or he goes when all those contracts are up. Will also coincide with the system being completely hollowed out from lack of picks, so two more years for success or he's gone.

[Textcritic]

Yes. Of course, he does. I suspect the only reason he has not yet extended is because he is not convinced yet to remain in Calgary. I would bet that Treliving could have his pick of any number of NHL GM jobs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Treliving has made many mistakes in his time with the Flames, but he's also had some really big wins. I think you have to look at the overall health of the organization and make the call based on that. Treliving has burned through draft picks which leaves the team in a tough spot. The one thing that makes me believe he deserves an extension (a two-year extension) is how he recovered from the Gaudreau/Tkachuk situation. Even though it was self-inflicted he managed to come away with some good assets and turned them into a new core for the club. I think he has earned an opportunity to see what comes of that core. With the massive number of contracts ending in short order I think his tenure should be tied to those. Get over the hump or he goes when all those contracts are up. Will also coincide with the system being completely hollowed out from lack of picks, so two more years for success or he's gone.

This is the second time you have said this. Self-inflicted mistake by Treliving. You do understand how this works right? Johnny lied and took him to the last second, Tkachuk came out last second and said he doesn't want to sign.

Both those players said they would sign long term deals going years back, and chose not to sign with us. He cannot force players to sign. Just like the guy in the boo Johnny thread said we should have just signed him in the 2021 off-season. You can't just sign him, this is not NHL23, the players can choose not to sign with us.

Its just like with Jack Eichel, well we should have traded for him. Buffalo has to agree to the trade. Treliving can't force teams and players to do things he wants.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I wonder if he's grown tired of ownership and wants to test the waters. His results have been mixed but I think he's pretty well regarded around the league because of how hard he works. I also wonder if his results would be better with more hands off ownership.

This is my concern too.
He should be extended. Perhaps he doesn't want to be.
He could be in line for a job with a lot more resource and autonomy available to him.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Treliving has made many mistakes in his time with the Flames, but he's also had some really big wins. I think you have to look at the overall health of the organization and make the call based on that. Treliving has burned through draft picks which leaves the team in a tough spot. The one thing that makes me believe he deserves an extension (a two-year extension) is how he recovered from the Gaudreau/Tkachuk situation. Even though it was self-inflicted he managed to come away with some good assets and turned them into a new core for the club. I think he has earned an opportunity to see what comes of that core. With the massive number of contracts ending in short order I think his tenure should be tied to those. Get over the hump or he goes when all those contracts are up. Will also coincide with the system being completely hollowed out from lack of picks, so two more years for success or he's gone.

It's quite possible that Treliving sees now as the best jumping off point because of the acclaim he gained over the summer in dealing with the hardships. If he waits too long and things don't work out in the long run, it might burn a lot of the goodwill he currently has.

I honestly think the main reason why he hasn't been extended already is because he had been given verbal security that an extension is in the cards, so he is just putting all other business first. He probably doesn't think there is a hurry to make it official.

I think there is a small chance that he wants to get a league executive position. He started and ran his own minor league, so I wonder if league management is something he is striving for. He is an ambitious person and maybe team GM was never his end game.

Then there is a smaller chance in my opinion that he wants to try his hand as GM of another NHL team. He just doesn't strike me as someone to cut and run.

[bluejays]

Certainly he’s made strategic decisions which will probably cost the team down the road, and I do waiver on it monthly but the alternatives out there aren’t good. Sutter? Hell no. I think there needs to be a reckoning with ownership though on when to call it a day and sell for a rebuild. It could be because of that that Brad has been dealing picks over the years but at some point they have to look to get younger and build a sustainable winner. Going all in and being mediocre for years to follow kills fans slowly.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This is the second time you have said this. Self-inflicted mistake by Treliving. You do understand how this works right? Johnny lied and took him to the last second, Tkachuk came out last second and said he doesn't want to sign.

Sigh. Gaudreau was willing to sign long-term before the start of the 2021 season. Treliving decided not to go for the long-term extension at that time, which was a tactical error. Tkachuk made the decision to leave after Gaudreau left. All would have worked out had the extension just been done the summer of 2021. That's on the Tre. It was a mistake. Live with it. Tre has and he managed to make lemonade out of a very bad situation. Because of that he's earned another short extension.

If he doesn't get the extension it will be interesting to see who will look at his job in Calgary and think that is the guy to take your team to the promised land. The Flames have had little success under Treliving and will have been left with a miserable cap situation, few prospects, and even less draft picks. And all for a bubble team? You would hope there would be a Stanley Cup banner in the mix after all the time and burned capital, but the Flames haven't been close to anything that matters.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Sigh. Gaudreau was willing to sign long-term before the start of the 2021 season. Treliving decided not to go for the long-term extension at that time, which was a tactical error. Tkachuk made the decision to leave after Gaudreau left. All would have worked out had the extension just been done the summer of 2021. That's on the Tre. It was a mistake. Live with it. Tre has and he managed to make lemonade out of a very bad situation. Because of that he's earned another short extension.

If he doesn't get the extension it will be interesting to see who will look at his job in Calgary and think that is the guy to take your team to the promised land. The Flames have had little success under Treliving and will have been left with a miserable cap situation, few prospects, and even less draft picks. And all for a bubble team? You would hope there would be a Stanley Cup banner in the mix after all the time and burned capital, but the Flames haven't been close to anything that matters.

No Johnny was offered a fair deal for what he was providing at the time, he decided to bet on himself. His family even said they thought the offer was too low. Would you have signed Johnny to a long term extension at over 9 million a season that offseason?

Half of the fans had him traded to Philly for Morgan Frost and other junk. Johnny's value was as low as it could be at that point it would have been a fire able offence to sign a guy pacing at 60 points for the type of money he was commanding.

[The Yen Man]

I think we will quickly regret it if Treliving leaves. I think he's a very capable GM. Are there things he can improve on? Definitely, but at least he's shown a willingness to learn from his mistakes.

Like it or not, Flames are now tied to the Huberdeau / Weegar / Kadri wagon for the next several years. I'd rather have Treliving here to continue to steer that ship until this team shows otherwise.

[dirk diggler]

i still cringe when i think of that Hamonic trade, his lowest point i feel. about as bad a trade this franchise has made excluding Gilmour of course. I would be concerned who the Flames would end up getting if they fired him though.

[Mathgod]

The team is in its contention window now. Tre at the very least deserves to stay and see this through.