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Old 07-18-2022, 01:08 PM   #21
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This has been a worthwhile step for the last few years ... get a good argument about who to include instead of just posting what I think the list is and getting halted by omissions.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:18 PM   #22
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what about Vladar?

Does a season at the NHL level make him a graduate despite being a backup? I would think so.

Recent dmen signings Meloche and Gilbert?
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:22 PM   #23
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Vladar graduate for sure.
The other two feel more like pro depth than prospects but it's a tricky line to draw.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:29 PM   #24
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what about Vladar?

Does a season at the NHL level make him a graduate despite being a backup? I would think so.

Recent dmen signings Meloche and Gilbert?
With Meloche playing 50 games last season I’d say he’s graduated. Gilbert could probably be considered a prospect as a 25 year old with the most games in a season he’s played being 21, but could also be in the same grouping as Clark bishop.
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Has to be wolf at #1. Pelletier #2, corronato #3
Slow down, eh?
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Vladar has graduated for me. Same goes for Meloche with that 50 games played.

I put Gilbert into the same grouping as Bishop as savyandjokster did.
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:10 PM   #27
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I think Calder eligibility is a good indicator of who is a prospect or not. Can you be a prospect if you aren’t considered a rookie?

Calder Eligibility:
-Must be under 26 as of Sept 15 2022
-Cannot have played more than 25 NHL games in any single preceding season, nor 6 or more games in each of two preceding seasons in any major professional league

Eliminated based on this:
Bishop (age and games)
Poolman (age)
Mackey (age by 3 days)
Meloche (games)
Ruzicka (games)
Valimaki (games)

Technically eligible (but I would argue should not be included):
Gilbert (age ok by 1.5 months, games ok by 3, but played NHL games in 3 separate season, seems more like AHL filler)
Vladar (one game short in 20-21, shortened season)

I initially considered Ruzicka a prospect as well but looking at Flames rosters from the last 10 years or so, any player that has played 25 games in one season is in the NHL the next season. Ruzicka will almost certainly be on the NHL roster next year and could be considered graduated based on lack of Calder eligibility and Flames history.

That said, I know 25 and under and less than 65 total NHL games has been used as the rule of thumb before. And I agree with omitting all of those already on your omit list.
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:11 PM   #28
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Has to be wolf at #1. Pelletier #2, corronato #3
No, it does not have to be.

Valimaki and Mackey -yes

Vladdar - no
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Old 07-19-2022, 10:13 AM   #29
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No, it does not have to be.

Valimaki and Mackey -yes

Vladdar - no
Okay well I would bet dollars to donuts that it WILL be.
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:11 AM   #30
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Do we add Cole Schwindt?
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:13 AM   #31
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Yes!!
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:26 AM   #32
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Yes!!
Agreed add him.

As 10th ranked prospect in Florida we would not make it into our top 3 anyways. So perfect to add him to mix here today and see where he lands.
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