05-23-2022, 06:08 PM
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#21
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by agulati
As per my mom, McDavid does.
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####. Your mom is cool.
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05-23-2022, 06:30 PM
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#22
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Royal Oak
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
It was probably just a preventative call to avoid further shenanigans, but they didn't consider the fact that no Oiler wants any part of Looch.
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Giving him 2 minutes plus a 10 minute misconduct would have served the same purpose.
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05-23-2022, 07:19 PM
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#23
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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"I wasn't trying to hit (Smith) … I was breaking," said the 33-year-old, a hulking six foot three and 231 pounds. "I don't think I really want to get into what I was thinking or what I was trying to do or if he sold it or if he didn't.
"But I think I agree with Darryl in the sense of, if I actually did charge we both wouldn't be playing (in Game 4)."
"This is a good time to just decompress," he said. "And realize that it's great to be in second round of the playoffs, playing the Battle of Alberta.
"Take a few deep breaths and just soak it all in and enjoy it."
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...788f4af3670aba
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05-23-2022, 07:27 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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It almost sounds like he's relieved that he didn't get a suspension. Its like he was genuinely worried they were going to throw the book at him.
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05-23-2022, 11:06 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Lucic knew what he was doing and said as much without saying it.
Message sent and it took Smith mentally out of the game and affected the way that the Oilers played the rest of the game.
To note though, Kevin Lowe went over the coach and GM (again) and rewarded Kassian with a ridiculous contract extension after the Tkachuk incident and not coincidentally, before the next Flames game, strictly rewarding that principle that Kassain was the keeper of the code and making sure everyone knew about it.
Therefore, I suspect the code, according to Lowe, has to be upheld, and thus a early 1st period scrap with Lucic, and fully expect Lucic expects it as well.
Assume it will be Kassian to be the punching bag...he's been fairly neutered all series and season now that the Flames have Lucic but also Gud and Zadorov. Can't imagine it will be Nurse or any other fake tough guy like Kane.
With the way the Oilers wasted time to get Smith out there, they will want to back him by fighting the gu who bumped him...but even if that smug Woodcroft doesn't want to give the Flames momentum by having Lucic kick the tar out of an Oiler, his orders come from on high.
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05-24-2022, 10:11 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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It was a ridiculous call to begin with. Not really a charge (I've seen lots worse accelerations by Lucic into a hit - he was slowing down and turning). Not interference - Smith had the puck. Could they call roughing? Maybe but only because Smith's lid is so loose (I swear he does that so he can shed it if the going gets tough).
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05-24-2022, 10:20 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
It was a ridiculous call to begin with. Not really a charge (I've seen lots worse accelerations by Lucic into a hit - he was slowing down and turning). Not interference - Smith had the puck. Could they call roughing? Maybe but only because Smith's lid is so loose (I swear he does that so he can shed it if the going gets tough).
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Smith purposely wears his mask loose so he can shake it off to stop the play when it benefits him. The hit looks worse than it was because Smith was turning around and lost his balance when he got hit and everyone knows that any contact with Mike Smith is going to bring about some theatricals. It was a bit of a lapse by Lucic but he clearly slowed down and the hit itself was clean. The NHL remote officials confirmed the 5 minute major so in their eyes it was a charge. For all we know they just wanted to get him out of the game in the case that all hell broke loose.
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05-24-2022, 10:31 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
It was a ridiculous call to begin with. Not really a charge (I've seen lots worse accelerations by Lucic into a hit - he was slowing down and turning). Not interference - Smith had the puck. Could they call roughing? Maybe but only because Smith's lid is so loose (I swear he does that so he can shed it if the going gets tough).
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Smith purposely wears his mask loose so he can shake it off to stop the play when it benefits him. The hit looks worse than it was because Smith was turning around and lost his balance when he got hit and everyone knows that any contact with Mike Smith is going to bring about some theatricals. It was a bit of a lapse by Lucic but he clearly slowed down and the hit itself was clean. The NHL remote officials confirmed the 5 minute major so in their eyes it was a charge. For all we know they just wanted to get him out of the game in the case that all hell broke loose.
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It is clear to me that he took the loose helmet strategy from the playbook of Dwayne Roloson former Edmonton Oiler. Roloson would shake his head whenever he wanted to stop play because his helmet as so loose that it would fall off.
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05-24-2022, 11:04 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Smith purposely wears his mask loose so he can shake it off to stop the play when it benefits him. The hit looks worse than it was because Smith was turning around and lost his balance when he got hit and everyone knows that any contact with Mike Smith is going to bring about some theatricals. It was a bit of a lapse by Lucic but he clearly slowed down and the hit itself was clean. The NHL remote officials confirmed the 5 minute major so in their eyes it was a charge. For all we know they just wanted to get him out of the game in the case that all hell broke loose.
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They had to call it a charge because it clearly wasn't interference. 5 minutes was total BS. It even looked to me like Lucic covered over Smith so he wouldn't get piled on. And then Smith embellished by holding his head (which IMO cause the protocol action). I wonder if Lucic knew he'd get 5 and a game if he'd have gotten more of his moneys worth on that hit
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05-24-2022, 11:45 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Terrible call, at most a 2 minute interference penalty and it would be a weak one that that. I've seen plenty of goalie contact worse than that that hasn't been penalized. Lucic barely touched him and tried to shelter and soften the impact. Smith went down like he was hit by a sniper rifle. Looch and Sutter are right, if he really tried to hit him he'd likely be done for the series. A call based on reputation and terrible acting.
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05-24-2022, 11:54 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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The interesting thing about this is both guys have a history of this - Lucic with running goalies - Ryan Miller notably - and Mike Smith with flopping to try to get a penalty / suspension, both in and out of the crease - Andrew Shaw, Alex Edler (twice), Andreas Athanasiou, Ryan Kesler, Zach Hyman, Dwight King notably... and probably some I'm missing.
Hm... you know what, maybe one of these guys has a longer history of this ####.
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05-24-2022, 12:41 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I know protect the goalie and all, but Smith makes playing the puck a big part of his game. At some point if you play the puck that much, and use the vast bulk of goalie equipment to help shield it from a forechecker, "protect the goalie" has to give way to "let the forechecker forecheck".
Lucic hit McDavid a lot harder than that.
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05-24-2022, 12:49 PM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
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Was there anything more cringeworthy than Sportsnet showing Smith's triumphant walk down the hall back to the ice? A guy that got himself pulled from the game because he dove too violently miraculously was OK and the crowd goes wild. It was so Edmonton.
It was like the real life version of that MacTavish WWE gif and the fans ate it up!
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05-24-2022, 01:02 PM
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#34
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Participant 
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Originally Posted by kevman
Was there anything more cringeworthy than Sportsnet showing Smith's triumphant walk down the hall back to the ice? A guy that got himself pulled from the game because he dove too violently miraculously was OK and the crowd goes wild. It was so Edmonton.
It was like the real life version of that MacTavish WWE gif and the fans ate it up!
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The whole thing was such an embarrassing drama club rendition of a “playoff moment.” Smith flops like an idiot and puts himself into concussion protocol despite being obviously fine and saying he doesn’t want it and the ref saying “not my call.” Koskinen comes in. 15 minutes later a timeout is called where they pretend to be gathering everyone up and Koskinen pretends to need an adjustment to a skate and… what’s that? Is that MIKE SMITH? And, of course, Koskinen immediately drops his leg and the players go back to the ice because the scripted playoff moment errr I mean the “timeout” is over without any reason for a timeout having actually occurred.
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05-24-2022, 01:06 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Really that should have been delay of game when Koskinen faked his skate needing to be looked at. I never understood how the NHL hands out two minutes for delay of game if a player accidentally puts the puck over the glass but it's no issue if a goaltender fakes an equipment issue for a free time out.
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05-24-2022, 01:09 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chilliwack, B.C
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevman
Was there anything more cringeworthy than Sportsnet showing Smith's triumphant walk down the hall back to the ice? A guy that got himself pulled from the game because he dove too violently miraculously was OK and the crowd goes wild. It was so Edmonton.
It was like the real life version of that MacTavish WWE gif and the fans ate it up!
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At least not long after that Flames scored
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