[Game Takes] Stars 4 Flames 2 (Dallas leads series 2-1)

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Does it make a difference? They're like the points on "Whose Line Is It Anyways". They're all made up and they don't really matter.

Counting stats are shots, faceoffs and powerplays ... those are made up?

Can't believe you keep walking out underlying stats as magic or made up. You clearly just don't listen as it's been explained to you in excruciating detail.

Pretty silly to be honest.

[Bingo]

Counting stats fixed

[Bingo]

I'll stay out of the way of those that want to just wallow in it today.

For me disappointed, but thought they played their best game of the series. Oettinger was very good, and they got the bounces.

You don't often see two pucks just come straight out to a forward for tap in goals twice in a game. Happens.

Both goaltenders have been great, Flames need to finish. they're generating more shot volume then Dallas by a long shot, they could certainly up the high danger content, and will have to.

Guessing they win on Monday and it's a 6-7 game series.

[Goriders]

Still think the Flames are playing good enough to win.

Dallas’s goalie is killing them. A few of our top forwards look off their game. Taking way to many penalties. That’s the main problem in my mind.

But our defence and goaltending has definitely been good enough to win.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Scooter

So you're basically saying he is out coaching Darryl!

It’s not Sutter’s fault that his players choke in the playoffs
Or is it his job to ‘unchoke’ them?

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Scooter

So you're basically saying he is out coaching Darryl!

No one is out coaching Darryl.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

No one is out coaching Darryl.

Somebody is being outplayed

Is it?

1)Darryl
2)Markstrom
3)Top line
4)Middle forward
5)All of them

[BagoPucks]

Flames in the room need to find a way to block out the BS the Stars are distracting them with, all extra physicial non call stuff . They need to be mentally stronger to not let it get to them, focus extremely intently on their own game.

Welcome to the mud Boys. Let's get going

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Somebody is being outplayed

Is it?

1)Darryl
2)Markstrom
3)Top line
4)Middle forward
5)All of them

Darryl and Markstrom are not the problem in this series.

I’m as pessimistic as any, but those two are not the problem.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Somebody is being outplayed

Is it?

1)Darryl
2)Markstrom
3)Top line
4)Middle forward
5)All of them

The difference in this series is a couple of bounces. That is neither Sutter's fault, nor Markstrom's.

It's about execution. And the Flames have 3 goals in 3 games.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Darryl and Markstrom are not the problem in this series.

I’m as pessimistic as any, but those two are not the problem.

Agreed they are not.

But unless you think Dallas is the better team in 3 games, Ottinger has played better and Bowness has done a better job forcing the style of game to play.

[WinnipegFan]

I think we see the Flames play their game tomorrow instead of the one they are being lulled into. The players need to remember who they were before the playoff hype started. Chucky is not Lucic, and Lucic needs to be Lucic. Gadreau needs to unpacked his butt cheeks and play his game. Your goalie and D are doing their job, once the top players find their groove they will run with it.

My biggest concern is the liberties that the Flames are allowing Dallas to take physically, I mean when you have Looch on the bench that just shouldn't be happening. But the jabs and stick work after plays on Johnny and the runs at Anderson require an answer and it can't be Chucky distracting himself with the role. I would like to see Looch rag doll Rail and set the tone early next game. Reignite the fire.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Somebody is being outplayed

Is it?

1)Darryl
2)Markstrom
3)Top line
4)Middle forward
5)All of them

I just don't see hockey that way.

The Flames have been the better five on five team, and an equal powerplay team. They have had the shot generations, shots and chances to be up 3-0 with some bounces and finish.

Their top players aren't getting it done, but I wouldn't say they're getting out played, they're just not finishing.

Oettinger has been able to stop more pucks, but is he outplaying Markstrom?

Hockey is a 52/48 game on most nights, you need some bounces. Oettinger is giving up a lot of rebounds, but they're going over or past sticks. Markstrom had two go straight to Pavelski.

If the Flames wilt like they did against Colorado, it's on them. If they keep playing their game and lose due to finish and bounces it is what it is.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Somebody is being outplayed

Is it?

1)Darryl
2)Markstrom
3)Top line
4)Middle forward
5)All of them

3 and 4. (Actually they aren't being outplayed so much as that's the part of the line-up that isn't producing/delivering)

[chedder]

Now the long hard day off seeing dumpsville score goals at will, ultimately cakewaking to the 2nd round.

I said it last night. There is no such think as hockey gods or puck luck. There may be such thing as getting goalied but that isn't what's happening.

Dallas is getting to pucks first, hitting more and harder, clogging up the middle of the ice at both ends. We are playing scared hockey. How many times did a Flame gain the zone and have nobody anywhere near the slot or net to pass to.

The team has no confidence and needs to break that and just play or it's over.

Monday is do or die and our beloved Flames will show us what kind of team we have.

[Philly06Cup]

Come on Darryl. Play your better players in the offensive zone

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Up 2-1, I thought the Flames were going to put these guys away. I started to feel like we were watching regular season Flames.

But Stars fought back and Flames just seemed to let up. That was most disappointing part of the game for me.

Yeah totally, I agree. When Flames took that lead and continued carrying the play for a bit after, I felt very confident we were going to win. I'm actually kinda shocked they gassed it. I'm officially very concerned about this series now.

Though one item of note is, in 2020 Dallas was down 2-1 in the series to us before they took over and won the next 3. Time for us to return the favour (I hope)

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Scooter

So you're basically saying he is out coaching Darryl!

Those are your words, not mine!

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I just don't see hockey that way.

The Flames have been the better five on five team, and an equal powerplay team. They have had the shot generations, shots and chances to be up 3-0 with some bounces and finish.

Their top players aren't getting it done, but I wouldn't say they're getting out played, they're just not finishing.

Oettinger has been able to stop more pucks, but is he outplaying Markstrom?

Hockey is a 52/48 game on most nights, you need some bounces. Oettinger is giving up a lot of rebounds, but they're going over or past sticks. Markstrom had two go straight to Pavelski.

If the Flames wilt like they did against Colorado, it's on them. If they keep playing their game and lose due to finish and bounces it is what it is.

Except I don’t see the Flames playing their game. They are playing Dallas game, except more stupid stuff from Tkachuk and companies

[Badgers Nose]

Dallas did a very good job getting into the Flames heads, somehow goading them into proving how tough they are. I really thought it was the other way around after Klinberg's interview outburst, but Matthew breaking his hand on Klinberg's helmet in game three proves it was the other way around.

And the middle six are not chipping in the way they were built to do. IMO BT did everything he could be reasonably expected to do in bolstering Flames secondary scoring. But Colemen, Toffoli and Jarncrok are not performing as advertised.

Kind of hard to see how this is going to change. Looks like it will be status quo on lines and approach until the series is over.

I'm hearing Sutter say it worked in the regular season therefore will eventually work in the post season, but isn't he also one of the first people to say this is different hockey now?

Is it not worth shuffling the middle six a bit?