How do you tell a Mormon to get lost?

[Shawnski]

"Why would I want to become a Moron?"

Slowly close door to gap mouthed door knocker....

Repeat as necessary.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

"I only worship Dion Phaneuf"
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[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by troutman

TO THOSE WHO ARE INVESTIGATING "MORMONISM"


By RICHARD PACKHAM


http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

Here is a summary of important facts about the Mormon church, its doctrine, and its history that the missionaries will probably not tell you. We are not suggesting that they are intentionally deceiving you --most of the young Mormons serving missions for the church are not well educated in the history of the church or in modern critical studies of the church. They probably do not know the all the facts themselves. They have been trained, however, to give investigators "milk before meat," that is, to postpone revealing anything at all that might make an investigator hesitant, even if it is true. But you should be aware of these facts before you commit yourself.

Tell them you won't talk to them until they read this article.

Yeah, you'd think that would help but maybe not.

I had a roommate once that grew up as a Mormon. You could put in front of him entire libraries of evidence about anything. Archaelogy, history, biology... and no matter what, he'd brush it off with basically "it's just wrong and this is right".

Of course he smoked about a pound of weed everyday, loved Heineken and banged his Mormon girlfriend on a regular schedule so maybe he's not the best example.

I went to Uni in Lethbridge and there were plenty of Mormons around. Sitting through a history class or an anthro class was always interesting. Occasionally one would try to challenge some foregone conclusion or other but mostly they'd just sit there, dilligently taking notes like the rest of us. I guess they believed it long enough to write the test. It must have been kind of hard to go through school that way, listening to people talk for 3 hours a day and not believing a word of it. There are a lot of conversions though.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Now I like talking to people and getting to know new people. But they always pressure me to take a Bibble and Mormom temple post cards, and I dont know how tell them to **** off nicely.

They are just too nice to tell them to **** off. And I am not that kind of person. I always tell them that I respect what you do, but I beleive in another religion. But they just dont listen, and they keep being nice and wanting me to take the bibble.

They're not being nice right there, they're being fake-polite and disrespectful
I would say sometimes it's justified to be an *******, if someone is an ******* to you first

[Reaper]

"Get the hell off my property..." (Click, click)

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yeah, you'd think that would help but maybe not.

I had a roommate once that grew up as a Mormon. You could put in front of him entire libraries of evidence about anything. Archaelogy, history, biology... and no matter what, he'd brush it off with basically "it's just wrong and this is right".

Of course he smoked about a pound of weed everyday, loved Heineken and banged his Mormon girlfriend on a regular schedule so maybe he's not the best example.

I went to Uni in Lethbridge and there were plenty of Mormons around. Sitting through a history class or an anthro class was always interesting. Occasionally one would try to challenge some foregone conclusion or other but mostly they'd just sit there, dilligently taking notes like the rest of us. I guess they believed it long enough to write the test. It must have been kind of hard to go through school that way, listening to people talk for 3 hours a day and not believing a word of it. There are a lot of conversions though.

I grew up in Milk River and Coutts, two small towns south of Lethbridge overflowing with mormons. Most of them were fine and didn't try the conversion routine. However, a classmate of mine belonged to some other religion (River of Life?) and that was a whole other story. They had a cool kids hangout where we'd go and play video games and foosball and floor hockey and stuff. But after a couple hours of that, pure unadulterated fun for a kid, they would all gather round and start reading scripture. That was my cue to leave.

Even to this day, one of those guys refuses to believe in dinosaurs and evolution. Fossils were either planted there by conspiracists or the science behind the carbon dating is simply wrong. Why? Because it don't jive with the good book my man!

[oly74]

I always find it funny how Mormons do their "missions" in first world nations like Canada and the US, where other Christian faiths go to third world places to convert the masses.

Baptist missions: Guatemala, Africa, India

Mormon missions: Hawaii, Los Angeles, Calgary

Quite the hardship

[KipperIsGod]

Yea Ive had mormons come up to me before..There pretty annoying. Especially when you have a bus to catch and they wont let you go.

[MolsonInBothHands]

Originally Posted by troutman

TO THOSE WHO ARE INVESTIGATING "MORMONISM"


By RICHARD PACKHAM


http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

Here is a summary of important facts about the Mormon church, its doctrine, and its history that the missionaries will probably not tell you. We are not suggesting that they are intentionally deceiving you --most of the young Mormons serving missions for the church are not well educated in the history of the church or in modern critical studies of the church. They probably do not know the all the facts themselves. They have been trained, however, to give investigators "milk before meat," that is, to postpone revealing anything at all that might make an investigator hesitant, even if it is true. But you should be aware of these facts before you commit yourself.

Tell them you won't talk to them until they read this article.

Thanks for that link, I have been around the Mormon church, no wait, it has been around me most of my life, and I only knew of a couple of the things in the naughty list. I am going to print it out and have it waiting by the door to hand out to the next ones who come around. Sometimes that can backfire though, because I know some Mormons who get hard ons for the discussion. At the very least, this should make for a very colorful family reunion this summer.

I used to spend summers with my very devout Mormon grandparents. My grandfathers idea of cheap entertainment was to let the JW's come in, and they would debate the whole afternoon away. They were both civil, and respectful, and stubborn. It took a while to realize they both had their heads up their asses, but I won't get into that, the Humanists are lurking!

[Resolute 14]

You got that right, Oly.

A friend of mine went on a mission to Los Angeles.

His brother went to Los Vegas, of all places, and eventually chose to move down there to live. If I didn't know better about his brother (ie: head on straight) I would have figured sending a Mormon kid to Los Vegas would be like sending the lamb into the lions den.

[Gravitykillr]

an easy one might be "Me and Devil are Buddies, he's buying beers during the next flames game", or "listen guys I know this great bar downtown where the ladies do this thing, well you'll have to see it come on lets go", or "listen guys I just can't give it Coffee, and Coca Cola it's not gonna happen", hmmmm......I'm sure I could come up with a few more excuses that aren't totally rude

[Mike Oxlong]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

"I only worship Dion Phaneuf"

Well Done!!!

[Otto-matic]

Or you could just say No Thanks and please stop trying on me

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by fredr123

I grew up in Milk River and Coutts, two small towns south of Lethbridge overflowing with mormons. Most of them were fine and didn't try the conversion routine. However, a classmate of mine belonged to some other religion (River of Life?) and that was a whole other story. They had a cool kids hangout where we'd go and play video games and foosball and floor hockey and stuff. But after a couple hours of that, pure unadulterated fun for a kid, they would all gather round and start reading scripture. That was my cue to leave.

Even to this day, one of those guys refuses to believe in dinosaurs and evolution. Fossils were either planted there by conspiracists or the science behind the carbon dating is simply wrong. Why? Because it don't jive with the good book my man!

They do sort of live in an alternate universe.

I actually had a girlfriend from Raymond who had been a Mormon and she had plenty of friends who still were. It was an eyeopener. One thing they did/had done was they made a sport of going to bridal shops and pretending they were going to get married so they could try on all the dresses. This was a fun activity for them. They had all been planning their wedding since high school.

Speaking of, there are very few things in this world more disheartening than sitting in class on the first day and some hot 19 year-old girl sits down next to you and she's got a damn wedding ring on her finger. That happened to me more than once.

Instead of reminiscing further... hey the_only_turek_fan, maybe you should bring a little subtle racism into the conversation. Say something like "it's against my religion to associate with white/black/brown/whatever people so I'm sorry, but I don't think I should talk to you any more". Even a little paranoia like "they are watching me" can't hurt.

[MolsonInBothHands]

I have had cousins go to Korea, Holland, Kenya, French Riviera (he was a gay missionary, not sure how that slipped through god's hands), lots of European spots I can't remember, and the most third world place yet Alabama! I never realised until you pointed it out how cushy those spots were. Probably not much money in the third world spots. It's inefficient if you have to teach them to read BEFORE you hand them the scriptures.

[Tron_fdc]

Look them straight in the eye, and say "Thanks guys, but you're wasting your time. Seriously." and say it as many times as it takes.

My g/f is (was) mormon, and her mom is HARDCORE about it. Dad's a trucker though, so we get along pretty well.....I'm his excuse to bring beer into the house. Anyway, that's the ONLY way you'll get rid of them. If you insult them, show them literature, dispute anything with them, it's an invitation for them to engage you in a debate that they are TRAINED TO WIN. Keep in mind these guys are fully brainwashed, and VERY well versed in evading pretty much any question/fact you bring up, and will most assuredly have an excuse for everthing. When you're done disputing their religion, and they have an excuse for whatever story/fact/argument you had, they'll follow up with a "come on by the church and we can discuss it a little more".

IIRC are you not East Indian descent TOTF? Tell them you're a devout muslim, and are NOT INTERESTED in mormonism, and they're simply wasting their time. Repeat as necessary until they get it into theeir skulls that they will have more luck with the next Joe they strike up a conversation with.

Keep this in mind...they're the same thing as a well trained salesperson, and you're the prospect. Get rid of them the same way you get rid of a door to door vacuum cleaner salesman.

As far as all the mormon colonies around Lethbridge go; I was told that it was because they were tossed out of the 'bridge for practising some of their weird ass beliefs.....and set up shop in Raymond, Picture Butte, etc etc. I'll ask, but I doubt I'll get a stright answer.

The missionaries are good for one thing though....they'll help you with ANYTHING (moving, renos, car problems, whatever) if you ask them. You'll have to losten to a spiel, but hey, it's cheap (read:FREE) labour.

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by KipperIsGod

Yea Ive had mormons come up to me before..There pretty annoying. Especially when you have a bus to catch and they wont let you go.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by MolsonInBothHands

I have had cousins go to Korea, Holland, Kenya, French Riviera (he was a gay missionary, not sure how that slipped through god's hands), lots of European spots I can't remember, and the most third world place yet Alabama! I never realised until you pointed it out how cushy those spots were. Probably not much money in the third world spots. It's inefficient if you have to teach them to read BEFORE you hand them the scriptures.

Yeah I never thought about it before either but I bet you are bang-on with the reading thing and the money thing. Don't Mormons donate 10% of their earnings to the church? 10% of a dollar a day hardly seems worth the trouble.

I knew a guy who went on a mission to Los Angeles and he didn't convert a single person in two years. When I brought up the idea that this might be considered by some as a failure I was told it was not a failure, and that's how lots of the missions turn out.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yeah I never thought about it before either but I bet you are bang-on with the reading thing and the money thing. Don't Mormons donate 10% of their earnings to the church? 10% of a dollar a day hardly seems worth the trouble.

Why, yes they do!! Kinda funny, my g/f's dad is full on trucker. He's a workaholic, makes huge money in the oil and gas industry (owns his own trucks, and drives one of them) and pretty much told the church to eff off when it cam to his 10%. Girlfriends mom was pretty much told she had to contribute, so she went out and got a job, just to pay the tithe (or whatever they call the tax) so she could b a part of the community.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Why, yes they do!! Kinda funny, my g/f's dad is full on trucker. He's a workaholic, makes huge money in the oil and gas industry (owns his own trucks, and drives one of them) and pretty much told the church to eff off when it cam to his 10%. Girlfriends mom was pretty much told she had to contribute, so she went out and got a job, just to pay the tithe (or whatever they call the tax) so she could b a part of the community.

Yeah I heard they are pretty militant when it comes to collecting the tithe.