Raises…

[skudr248]

Originally Posted by Suave

Are you mainly salary or is salary just part of your compensation structure? For my job management level changes are generally a 10% raise, but you get a much bigger multiplier on the bonus structure.

Mainly salary plus a 10 percent max bonus a year dependent on personal performance and company performance. No other compensation.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by skudr248

Mainly salary plus a 10 percent max bonus a year dependent on personal performance and company performance. No other compensation.

The 4.5% should have been close to your inflation bump without a change in roles. So yes, you have more than reasonable grounds to ask for more.

If they hired an equal to you to do your job from last year, I guarantee they’re starting at at least 4.5% more than your last years salary.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

2019.

This is a raw topic for me.

Originally Posted by Canadianman

I've been in a salary freeze for just under 8 years. Can't move up the band, no CoL increases at all. exact same salary.


sincerely, an 'overpaid' government employee

Salary freeze since 2014 With three separate 20% cuts (and subsequent return). I would love a raise too.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

If you aren’t getting annual inflation bumps, then you are taking annual pay cuts.

Well, a good portion of our province is taking annual paycuts then.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by skudr248

Meh I know, we should all be thankful to have jobs now a days but let’s talk maybe pre Covid days and or industries not impacted.

You get promoted to a dept management position after slaving pretty hard
(Having to work and now people manage in heavy stress contracts negotiation position which I didn’t have to before) in a position you were already doing above and beyond your normal job description by a mile in a non management position … what increase percentage would you expect?

I got offered 4.5 percent increase in salary and position in a non COVID impacted industry just now and I’m livid to be honest. Beat some sense into me and or let me know what you think a reasonable percentage would be.

I think you should be more grateful.

I'm doing more work than I ever used to due to layoffs and I haven't had a raise in many years and I still have the thread of my job being axed hanging over me.

getting a 4.5% raise sounds pretty sweet, for a job you were doing anyway, especially as you also get bonuses.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Well, a good portion of our province is taking annual paycuts then.

Yup

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I think you should be more grateful.

I'm doing more work than I ever used to due to layoffs and I haven't had a raise in many years and I still have the thread of my job being axed hanging over me.

getting a 4.5% raise sounds pretty sweet, for a job you were doing anyway, especially as you also get bonuses.

He explicitly stated he has more responsibilities in the new role. You can’t ask others to be grateful because you’re in a tougher position. That isn’t how it works, and it’s not at all a fair comment. You should also be getting a raise due to increased work load and rising cost of living. I bet your superiors have.

[Superflyer]

I love the "You have a job you should be happy and shut up and just do your work" mentality. This is not the way it should be. A raise, assuming you are doing a good job, should not just be to make sure you can still put bread and milk on the table for another year. These same employers are also the ones that are shocked when you leave for another job and scream that you have no loyalty after years of working there and not giving you anything back.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Well, a good portion of our province is taking annual paycuts then.

Not just the province, this applies to most of NA, or even the world.

In a lot companies, the standard “meets expectations” seems to be a 2-2.5% raise. And you’d be lucky to get a 5% bonus. Not only that but the expectations are so high and difficult to achieve you end up putting in an extra 10+ hours a week for free just to meet the near impossible baseline that corporate has set.

All of that is just to earn $60k a year.


That’s why context matters here. The suggestion earlier that a 15-50% raise is the norm is laughable. I’d say that’s not the case in most industries or professions. Nevertheless 4.5 seems a bit low for a bump to management.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I think you should be more grateful.

I'm doing more work than I ever used to due to layoffs and I haven't had a raise in many years and I still have the thread of my job being axed hanging over me.

getting a 4.5% raise sounds pretty sweet, for a job you were doing anyway, especially as you also get bonuses.

If it bothers you so much why are you still there?

[northcrunk]

lol complaining about a 4.5% yearly raise. I haven't had one in 7 years

[Matata]

Ask for double what you think you deserve and put up a fight, you got everything to gain and nothing to lose. People hate having these conversations, but it's probably the most important conversation you'll have all year and it's worth exhausting yourself over.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

lol complaining about a 4.5% yearly raise. I haven't had one in 7 years

Is that a brag? Get yo money!

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Weitz

If it bothers you so much why are you still there?

This is the best I can do.

regardless of the reasons, not everyone has options.

If for the OP, if the 4.5% plus bonuses isn't good enough, ask him why he doesn't leave.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Matata

Ask for double what you think you deserve and put up a fight, you got everything to gain and nothing to lose. People hate having these conversations, but it's probably the most important conversation you'll have all year and it's worth exhausting yourself over.

Well, nothing to lose other than his job and livelihood.

[Dynamic]

How do people here compare the other perks.

I got moved from hourly to salary but my pay is essentially the same each month.

However pension is way better, benefits slightly better, and a 10% bonus but it is not a guarantee.

I feel sort of let down given my new responsibilities but my overall compensation will be a bit higher. Just to add to the convo we pretty much get 2.5% increases every year.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

How do people here compare the other perks.

I got moved from hourly to salary but my pay is essentially the same each month.

However pension is way better, benefits slightly better, and a 10% bonus but it is not a guarantee.

I feel sort of let down given my new responsibilities but my overall compensation will be a bit higher. Just to add to the convo we pretty much get 2.5% increases every year.

It sort of depends on what you and your family need. Do you need more monthly cash or is total comp good enough? I just accepted a new job that will see a rather large total comp increase, but just a marginal increase in salary. For us its going to work really well.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Well, nothing to lose other than his job and livelihood.

You aren’t going to get fired asking for a raise.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

You aren’t going to get fired asking for a raise.

Maybe not but there are a lot of bad employers out there. Maybe this signals to them he’s not a team player and they decide to make his life difficult. Maybe it’s a CLM to refuse the position if the raise isn’t sufficient. And if they ever need to make layoffs it could put him at the top of the list.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Maybe not but there are a lot of bad employers out there. Maybe this signals to them he’s not a team player and they decide to make his life difficult. Maybe it’s a CLM to refuse the position if the raise isn’t sufficient. And if they ever need to make layoffs it could put him at the top of the list.

Yep. It's always funny seeing people post about hiring/firing/raises/entitlements/how to demand or ask etc, when we're all coming from different industries.

What works in one industry doesn't in another. What you should be getting and how you should be approaching things can be night and day in two different industries. Not a shot at anyone btw, I just always like seeing how different things are.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

How do people here compare the other perks.

I got moved from hourly to salary but my pay is essentially the same each month.

However pension is way better, benefits slightly better, and a 10% bonus but it is not a guarantee.

I feel sort of let down given my new responsibilities but my overall compensation will be a bit higher. Just to add to the convo we pretty much get 2.5% increases every year.

Pension? What is that??