[Signing] Flames sign Chechelev to AHL contract

[sureLoss]

Don't think this necessarily mean trade.

From the Haynes article in the Athletic a few weeks ago, it sounded like the Flames didn't really like the options he had in Russia. It sounded like the offers he got would have led to limited playing time. So it was decided he would come over to North America.

I think they have a loan agreement with another AHL club already setup. Just a matter of deciding which goalie(s) get loaned out.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Wishful thinking probably but that would be sweet!

Monahan, Wolf, Pelletier, 1st?

That would put us, give or take, 1 billion dollars over the cap

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

That would put us, give or take, 1 billion dollars over the cap

No it wouldn't current cap space 2.25 m (approx.) 23 man roster .mony salary 6.375. So 6.375 +2.25 + 0.8 puts us at 9.42m space . 0.58m is miles over the cap?

[Freeway]

It very much seems like a case where they'd rather him be starting in Kansas City regularly and working with their goalie coach(es) rather than playing occasionally in Russia.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Loan Wolf to the Chicago Wolves and Chechelev to the Charlotte Chechers. Get it?

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Totally disagree. Parsons played on a more offensive minded junior team, practically won them a memorial cup from his play, and took the US to world Junior gold. Why is it people don't get how long goalies take to pan out?

Most goalies spend a couple of years in the AHL for sure. But it's a pretty short list that spend 5 years or more and develop into good NHL goalies. There are some for sure. Binnington for example.

But I can't find any that struggled like Parsons has, for as long as he has, and went on to be a good NHL goalie. There might be some out there, but I can't think of any.

I want the guy to be successful and I hope he is. But he has hit double digit games on the AHL once in 4 seasons, and his numbers are pretty awful.

Given the number of goalies in the system, his past play, and this being the final year of his contract you have to think the odds are long for him to be a Flames goalie. The safe money is on him getting moved in a prospect for prospect swap before season start.

[Sandman]

I really like this move. He needs to come over and start training for NA hockey, under the watchful eye of the organization. There's nothing in Russia at this age that would be beneficial to him.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Fischy13

This and with the Richardson signing to backfill a C spot… seems to imply there’s something up IMO. Monahan and Wolf out in part of an Eichel package.

These signings have nothing to do with Eichel. They are just the random minor signings that happen from time to time.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Parsons played on one of the most staked junior teams we have seen in the past 20 years. Marner, Dvorak, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Mete, Juolevi etc. That team was an absolute beast of a team. If we take a look at Wolf's teams there is a huge talent gap, thus making his stats and accolades even more impressive.

I get that it takes time with goalies and that they are crapshoots but in all honesty without any bias Wolf is the best bet. Wolf is the best goalie prospect we have had in ages and at this point Parsons is a goalie who might of been a product of an amazing team or an example of a goalie peaking early.

Parsons took the Knights to within a goal of round three in his third season in London with Cliff Pu as his leading scorer. Tkachuk, Dvorak and Marner had moved on.

Literally carried them.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Parsons took the Knights to within a goal of round three in his third season in London with Cliff Pu as his leading scorer. Tkachuk, Dvorak and Marner had moved on.

Literally carried them.

That team still had : Robert Thomas, Max Jones, Olli Joulevi, Evan Bouchard, Janne Kuokannen, Cliff Pu as indicated, Victor Mete and J.J Piccinich.

Also the knights were still putting up goals.

First round : 21 goals for and 18 against

Second round : 17 goals for and 22 against

Parsons finished the playoffs with a record of : 14 games played 7w 6l 2.69 av 9.22svs

Parsons wasn't exactly a world beater at all, and if I remember correctly no one was claiming that he was carrying the knights. That team was still super deep and was projected to have a long run. Albeit a solid performance, when considering teams and overall depth Wolf's stats are far better than Parsons.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

That team still had : Robert Thomas, Max Jones, Olli Joulevi, Evan Bouchard, Janne Kuokannen, Cliff Pu as indicated, Victor Mete and J.J Piccinich.

Also the knights were still putting up goals.

First round : 21 goals for and 18 against

Second round : 17 goals for and 22 against

Parsons finished the playoffs with a record of : 14 games played 7w 6l 2.69 av 9.22svs

Parsons wasn't exactly a world beater at all, and if I remember correctly no one was claiming that he was carrying the knights. That team was still super deep and was projected to have a long run. Albeit a solid performance, when considering teams and overall depth Wolf's stats are far better than Parsons.

From April 7th, 2017 global article https://globalnews.ca/news/3362996/t...2-take-game-1/

London captain, J.J. Piccinich has seen Parsons play over 100 games and he is convinced he hasn’t quite seen the Calgary Flames’ prospect at the level he was on Thursday night.

“I think it is safe to say, as well as he always plays, I have never seen him play as well as that. I don’t think I’ve ever played with any goalie who has played like that.”

The longest-serving member of the Knights, Owen MacDonald echoed the statement.

“(Parsons) stood on his head for 17 games straight last year, but I don’t think I can remember a performance quite like we saw tonight.”

From a Sportsnet article of the same month https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juni...ive-vs-otters/

Tyler Parsons, regardless of who wins in Erie, Pa., on Tuesday, has set the bar for money goaltending.

The London Knights’ 2-1 overtime win against the Erie Otters on Easter Sunday, for those of you scoring at home, was the eighth time in as many tries that Parsons has got the almighty W in a do-or-die game. The Calgary Flames prospect handled 44-of-45 shots, keeping the Knights alive until Mitchell Stephens (TB) scored in overtime. All told, the Knights have been outshot 226-138 through six games. Parsons has stopped 116 of 119 shots during London’s three victories.

Finished 3rd in save percentage for the 2017 playoffs.

[TheIronMaiden]

Vladar/ Werner will get a long look at an NHL spot.

The of those two who ever doesn't make it will split time in the AHL with Parsons.

Wolf should get the bulk of starts in the Echl and Chechelev can back him up.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Parsons was an absolute god that last year in junior - specifically in the playoffs. I am surprised that people have forgotten that. IIRC, the Knights got dramatically out-shot in many games, forcing Parsons to make 50+ saves on some occasions. There was no better 'big game' goalie prospect in the world at that point.


Parsons has 'failed' so far in the AHL mostly due to injuries. It isn't a given that he is going to make it to the NHL. However, I also wouldn't bet against him either. Time is running out for sure unfortunately, but this kid was a total stud in every way. If he can stay healthy this year, I bet he turns a lot of heads.

[Fischy13]

If this isn't related to a larger transaction like trading Wolf in a package, then this is whats wrong over all these years of the Flames trying to develop goalies. Your top prospect goalies need to be the undisputed #1, given the reigns and getting the minutes. Putting Wolf in the ECHL... or not playing as a backup in the AHL.. No wonder they never pan out. Parson is a little different with injuries derailing him. They need the reigns and playing time, in decent leagues too. I don't know the stats and would love to see how many top flight tenders went through the ECHL or backup in the AHL before making it big. The draft pedigree the Flames have drafted, there should be a lot more successes that there has been.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Fischy13

If this isn't related to a larger transaction like trading Wolf in a package, then this is whats wrong over all these years of the Flames trying to develop goalies. Your top prospect goalies need to be the undisputed #1, given the reigns and getting the minutes. Putting Wolf in the ECHL... or not playing as a backup in the AHL.. No wonder they never pan out. Parson is a little different with injuries derailing him. They need the reigns and playing time, in decent leagues too. I don't know the stats and would love to see how many top flight tenders went through the ECHL or backup in the AHL before making it big. The draft pedigree the Flames have drafted, there should be a lot more successes that there has been.

You don't want to just anoint a number one goalie prospect with how uneven their development paths are. The key is playing time at any level.

Goalies to play in the ECHL ...

Vokoun, Tim Thomas, Quick, Holtby, Manny Legace, Martin Biron, Jaroslav Halak

[Da_Chief]

They should loan all goalies to teams who know how to develops goalies...Vancouver, Nashville, Rangers, Tampa, Washington are 5 of top of my head...leave them there for couple of years.

[Flamesfan05]

Hopefully Wolf gets the job

Goalies take a long time to develop but Parson has shown nothing for 4 yrs now. Injuries or not. Your junior accomplishment can only go so long.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

They should loan all goalies to teams who know how to develops goalies...Vancouver, Nashville, Rangers, Tampa, Washington are 5 of top of my head...leave them there for couple of years.

And what exactly is in it for these other teams?

Unless by ‘loan’, you mean ‘give them away and never get them back’.

[talladega.25]

A loan has to be in the cards, no?
Stockton: Werner, Parsons/Wolf
KC: Wolf or Parsons plus Redmond and Moyse
Chechelev doesn't fill a void anywhere in the Flames organization.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by talladega.25

A loan has to be in the cards, no?
Stockton: Werner, Parsons/Wolf
KC: Wolf or Parsons plus Redmond and Moyse
Chechelev doesn't fill a void anywhere in the Flames organization.

Redmond and Moyse?