Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2021 - Round 1

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Jesus Bingo is a lot of pressure. I'm still getting used to Bongo.

You're just going to double down on discrediting anyone that picks Coronato? Good strategy.

"This isn't discrediting"
- critical thinking rarely applies
- no rules to enforce critical thought
- emotional decision making

I'd hate to see you when you mean to insult someone!

Would have taken less words to just say you are smarter than most that are voting.

You guys are showing a shocking lack of respect for Jesus Murphy! :

[Moneyhands23]

This list of prospects is pretty exciting to me. I think it's the strongest group we have had in a long time.

[dustygoon]

what do i know? I picked pelletier whom is in 3rd so far.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

what do i know? I picked pelletier whom is in 3rd so far.

Really who knows out of our top 3 skaters who will be most successful.

Your guess is as good as anybody!

[TheIronMaiden]

Pelletier is a Mangiapane type player. He plays hard on every inch of ice and compliments his linemates with his hard fore checking, back checking and pass disruption.

[Savvy27]

I went with Zary due to his training camp and AHL performance. Cail MacLean was talking about what went wrong in Stockton last season and a major point he brought up was Zary returning to junior and unmaking their top line. Pretty incredible for a junior age player to have that kind of impact. I also thought that he was incredibly noticable in the training camp game.

Pelletier was also considered after earning a promotion to Canada's top line at the WJC and a remarkable season in the Q. And of course Coronato is a very exciting prospect who scores goals at an absurd rate. He may make me feel foolish very quickly with a hot start at Harvard.

[Robbob]

I think the top 3 will be pretty easy. Went Coranto for his potential to just score goals. Zary was right there though. If you ask me tomorrow it could flip. Pelletier not far behind those guys, but I don't think his ceiling will be as high as the other two.

[Enoch Root]

the top 3 are pretty close. Coronado probably has a little more pedigree than the other two, however, they also have progression. Pelletier was amazing at the WJCs and for that reason I voted for him.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

the top 3 are pretty close. Coronado probably has a little more pedigree than the other two, however, they also have progression. Pelletier was amazing at the WJCs and for that reason I voted for him.

I think the big three (Zary, Coronoto, and Pelletier) are all pretty close, so I can understand picking any of them. After that there is a good gap to our next group, probably five or six players here, then a big gap to the next group. I think the top three are a lock unless something like an injury alters their path. The next group are those players we think have the potential to get there, but may be hindered or held back in some way. The next group are the long shots. There is a final group, the ones with no hope, and most of the players fall in that group. It's nice to have 10ish guys we can hope to see in the future.

[Rick M.]

I voted Coronato because he’s such a great finisher but Zary and Pelletier are right behind him in my estimation.

[1991 Canadian]

Zary only played 15 games last year. Pelletier only played 28. Coronato played 51 games + playoffs.

I think it goes without saying you need to be playing competitive hockey to grow as a player. I see Zary, Pelletier and Coronato as being on the same ledge as far as prospects go. But I think by being able to play more competitive games in the last two years, Coronato is in a better spot to succeed.

[foofighter15]

Going with Pelltier. Not just because he's one of the few I've actually seen live a handful of times, but because he's the kind of kid who rises to the top. I see him as a future team MVP even if he doesn't have the highest point totals year in and year out (I'd ballpark him as a top 3 point getter for us on a regular basis once he gets going)

I also hope/think he's going to make the team this year

[Monahammer]

People looking too much at the shiny new thing. Coronato is still raw.

Zary for Offensive upside. I was genuinely surprised by his AHL stint and WHL season after what I thought was a very shaky WJC. Pelletier 2nd then Coronato imo.

[dammage79]

Wouldn't shock me in the slightest if spots 2,3 and 4 all go the same way as last year. Don't think anyone can touch Wolf at 4.

[mikephoen]

Considered Zary, but Lanny is being a dick, so I went with Coronato.

I'm not voting for him because of 'recency bias', I'm voting for him because of spite.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Should be Connor Zary. Through his performance in the AHL he showed what he does in junior translates to the professional level. One of the few great hopes we have. Recency bias will see Coronato take top spot though.

Recent bias has F all to do with it. It depends on what way a person looks at top prospect. For me Zary is the safest pick to be an NHLer but could easily top out as a 3C. I voted for Coronato because his upside is a Rocket Richard challenger.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Jesus Bingo. We see the same thing every year. The first pick from the last draft is almost always our "best prospect" because he is the NKOTB. This isn't discrediting anything. It's a statement on human behavior. Critical thinking rarely applies to popularity contests, and that's all this is, because you set it up that way. No rules to enforce critical thought results in emotional decision making, making the most recent stimulus as the most likely to remembered and chosen.

Come on man. He is the highest draft pick up there, that seems likely an awfully big factor.

Did the other guys come from stronger draft classes or progressed beyond expectations? I'd be interested in those arguments.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Okay, now THAT is funny. Thanks for the laugh.



That IS recency bias in action. That is HOW recency bias actually works.



You've seen it big fella. You know I'm really good at it and can make people cry. You also know I don't do that any more because you asked me not to. If I wanted to insult someone I would just step right up and insult them, but you and Jiri have made me realize there is no use in insulting people. Instead just tell them the truth and argue from the point of truth. Recency bias is not an insult, it is a truthful statement on human behavior.



I'm not. I'm just aware of how these exercises play out. Was required to build and observe many of them in the past. Again, its human nature and extremely predictable. Remember when Eric Nystrom used to get the recency bump and people talked him up as future great player? Exactly.

I think you're missing the point.

You don't get to arbitrarily come along and define a group of people as suffering from recency bias because they chose to draft the most recent draft pick.

that's not your call.

Someone above went through his play driving, right handed shot, can play two positions ... he's not just chasing the shiny thing in his mind.

Could he be? Sure. But just because you can define recency bias doesn't mean you have an iron clad recency bias detector.

And you've never made me cry.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Voted Coronato because of the higher upside. No one scored more goals in the draft class than him. He's got a more elite set of skills than Zary, who would be a close #2 for me.
Nice to have a debate between two pretty high quality prospects.

[cannon7]

Went with Wolf. I know goalies are voodoo. Was damn near perfect in his WJC games.