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Old 07-28-2021, 06:20 PM   #21
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I like what Arizona is setting up for. They better have their drafting and development departments up to spec, however! Would really suck to go through this and draft/develop terribly.
They should really devote resources and time in the next combine.
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Love it! Swing and a miss for the Oilers.

What options do they have left for a semi-decent goalie? Even assuming they buy out Koskinen?
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Love it! Swing and a miss for the Oilers.

What options do they have left for a semi-decent goalie? Even assuming they buy out Koskinen?
Also love it. Kuemper is a band aid. And only one year to UFA.
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Kuemper's Decision Making Process

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Also love it. Kuemper is a band aid. And only one year to UFA.
O hey you've reappeared after the first round sweep. Kuemper is better than anything the Oilers have right now.

I will enjoy the steep down hill fall of Smith this year, when he is playing more than 6 teams and has to travel NA wide. Oilers are in for a rude awakening.
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Also love it. Kuemper is a band aid. And only one year to UFA.
Would it be better if he was two years away from UFA? Like Smith?
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O hey you've reappeared after the first round sweep. Kuemper is better than anything the Oilers have right now.

I will enjoy the steep down hill fall of Smith this year, when he is playing more than 6 teams and has to travel NA wide. Oilers are in for a rude awakening.
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No point is it’s a steep price to give up for one year of Oft injured Kuemper
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Ottawa did it. Toronto and Edmonton have also tore down. The Canadian market reality is 100% a thing but I’m not entirely sure why.



A 10th place finish with a season of lacklustre efforts is equally, if not more, tough to endure than a full on rebuild.
For you, yes. For fans that live and die with the team, yes. But this is probably only 20-30% of the season-ticket base. For most casual fans—who, as a collective form the largest cross-section of the market—it is not nearly as palatable.

I agree with the concept of rebuilding, but I totally get why owners are loathe to commit to them.

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I don't believe this is true. Rebuilding in most cases is still a dacade-long process. The 4-5 year builds by Chicago or Pittsburgh are the exception, NOT the nor..

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So they don’t trust Smith with the starter job eh? I wouldn’t either.
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They're playing the 4D chess most GMs aren't brave enough to play with two strong drafts with franchise players upcoming.
With the new rules it's such a better chance to pick at the top now if you finish dead last

Guaranteed top 2 now

So next year wright or savoie

Year after Bedard or michkov

I'd be surprised at this point if they didnt get 1 from each year
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I’ve been here lots. Didn’t know you were trying to keep tabs on me.
Maybe you have... I haven't really been on here much days after the oilers got swept and you weren't around, I just recall the level of arrogance going into the playoffs.

Anyway Darcy is an upgrade in my opinion on both Gru and Smith. 39 year old Smith will be coming back down to earth playing 31 teams vs 6.
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For you, yes. For fans that live and die with the team, yes. But this is probably only 20-30% of the season-ticket base. For most casual fans—who, as a collective form the largest cross-section of the market—it is not nearly as palatable.

I agree with the concept of rebuilding, but I totally get why owners are loathe to commit to them.


I don't believe this is true. Rebuilding in most cases is still a dacade-long process. The 4-5 year builds by Chicago or Pittsburgh are the exception, NOT the nor..

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Just identify the talent and prepare for a full dump and restock. Well done AZ, Gonna get loaded with young talent, just as the King of Arizona becomes a UFA and pulls a Taveras.

Maybe they'll get that new arena around that time too?
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Leafs have been rebuilding for 54 years. It can be a slow process.
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Did the Oilers ever tank for longer than midway through a season where they realized how God awful they were and the beginning of the next season?
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