[Trade] NSH trades Ryan Ellis to the Flyers for Phillipe Myers and Nolan Patrick

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Potential steal for the Preds as Ellis was on the decline. Assuming Patrick ever returns to form, which I doubt.

Patrick was the chip being thrown in in a Gaudreau deal, so possibly a good sign that the Flames can retain Gaudreau?

Lol this post was made too early.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

No way. Philly got the better player and a better fit for them. Provorov and Ellis sounds like a legit top pairing.

It depends on what Patrick ends up being. That is why I said it could be really bad. Is the difference between Myers and Ellis a #1C? Not saying Patrick realizes that but the potential is there.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Lol this post was made too early.

Well I don't think highly of Patrick, so I put that caveat in there. Not surprised to see him swapped again. Think he's damaged goods.

[Jore]

Hell of a trade for Philly

[devo22]

I like this a lot of for Nashville. Ellis is good, but Myers and Glass is a great return. Could be a couple of really nice building blocks for them over the next years.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It depends on what Patrick ends up being. That is why I said it could be really bad. Is the difference between Myers and Ellis a #1C? Not saying Patrick realizes that but the potential is there.

Long term I think you’re correct. Short term I think this helps Philly more. And I think they want one more kick in the can before Couts and Giroux deals.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Long term I think you’re correct. Short term I think this helps Philly more. And I think they want one more kick in the can before Couts and Giroux deals.

Yes, in the short term this favours the Flyers. I just was saying this might look bad down the road.

[Erick Estrada]

Good on the Flyers for cutting bait with Patrick before his worth dwindled further. Ellis probably has four good years left in the tank.

[kyuss275]

I really like what Nashville did today. Granted I’m not a huge Ellis fan.

[Boreal]

Myers was at Flames development camp. They let him walk & Philly signed him.

[Patek23]

Ellis doesn't seem to be a fan of getting dealt on Twitter.

[Philly06Cup]

YES.

Love it. Ellis has some injury concerns, but is a legit top pairing guy on a reasonable contract. He is exactly what the Flyers need.

Myers had a down year. He has size and is still young, but shows low hockey IQ and takes a lot of dumb penalties. He will be missed, but is expendable with Zamula and Cam York in the pipeline.

Patrick was downright terrible last year, so there are serious questions whether he is even an NHL player. The Flyers have a team that can compete now, so it's fine to give up on him. I still wish him the best and hope he can become a productive player.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Myers was at Flames development camp. They let him walk & Philly signed him.

No this isn’t accurate
When a player attends a camp the team has no rights to the player
They remain a free agent
He chose to sign elsewhere
He had zero obligation to the Flames who did have interest in him
This stuff gets stated inaccurately regularly

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

YES.

Love it. Ellis has some injury concerns, but is a legit top pairing guy on a reasonable contract. He is exactly what the Flyers need.

Myers had a down year. He has size and is still young, but shows low hockey IQ and takes a lot of dumb penalties. He will be missed, but is expendable with Zamula and Cam York in the pipeline.

Patrick was downright terrible last year, so there are serious questions whether he is even an NHL player. The Flyers have a team that can compete now, so it's fine to give up on him. I still wish him the best and hope he can become a productive player.

One thing I continue to extoll is that, in sports, never underestimate the power of Spite.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

No this isn’t accurate
When a player attends a camp the team has no rights to the player
They remain a free agent
He chose to sign elsewhere
He had zero obligation to the Flames who did have interest in him
This stuff gets stated inaccurately regularly

True. Though I think some people are just upset when this happens that they had an NHL player right under their noses but didn't sign him.

[DeluxeMoustache]

There is another Ryan Ellis who is having fun with the trade of his namesake

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416487242001010692

[Philly06Cup]

Another good point:

Ellis' veteran leadership should be a big plus. Ellis was being considered for the Captain before it went to Josi. Giroux/Voracek/Hayes are all loose, easy-going personalities. Their other letters are Couturier/Provorov, who are more strong silent types. This is filling a definite need.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Buff

True. Though I think some people are just upset when this happens that they had an NHL player right under their noses but didn't sign him.

Dev camps can be great ways to build a relationship with prospects. Sometimes it works (Mackey) and sometimes it doesn’t

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Watch him become a #1C now, that is our Pacific Division luck.

Watch him become a dish washer at the Hard Rock Hotel. Low talent, low GAF, and low outcome player. Vegas can afford to gamble, but they’re rolling snake eyes on this one.

[MrMike]

Well if anything, this might signal that Vegas isn’t going after Eichel. That was my nightmare scenario.