07-13-2021, 10:01 AM
|
#21
|
Participant  |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Been rumored they were after Eichel. This will help.
|
Thought about this again, and I don't see how.
They'll be in trouble in a couple years, and Eichel will probably once again be miserable hanging about in a poorly managed team.
It'd be a disaster. I hope they do it!
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to PepsiFree For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:02 AM
|
#22
|
|
Franchise Player
|
signed 13 years for $98M; played 9 years, will get $94.7M
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:02 AM
|
#23
|
|
First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
|
This is one of the most galaxy-brained decisions I've seen an NHL team make in a very long time.
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to TheScorpion For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:03 AM
|
#24
|
|
Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This is one of the most galaxy-brained decisions I've seen an NHL team make in a very long time.
|
Back to back days with moves I would have scoffed at as unlikely.
Keep it coming! Best off-season ever!
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:07 AM
|
#25
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This is one of the most galaxy-brained decisions I've seen an NHL team make in a very long time.
|
I think the Wild shot themselves in the foot with that one. Especially with Suter. I think the Wild were better off losing a good player to the expansion draft.
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:08 AM
|
#26
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
|
Have to think the Kaprizov talks haven’t gone too well, where they’re only going to be able to sign him to a high $, 1-2 year deal. Probably going all in for this season before rebuilding during those dead space years. That’s the only thing I’m coming up with.
Suter and Parise had to have made things hard on BG and refused to waive. At least Suter is still a serviceable defenseman and could’ve been had for really cheap. It was just the NMCs holding things back. Guess Minnesota really wanted to keep Dumba and have an extra forward spot to protect someone.
Does this make Suter a guy Seattle can pick from Minnesota? Or does he no longer become an option to be chosen from Minnesota because of the buy out?
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:08 AM
|
#27
|
|
Franchise Player
|
I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them re-signed with Minnesota for cheap after the expansion draft.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:09 AM
|
#28
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Parise I get. Suter I do not get. His cap hit exceeds his value but it's still a better use of cap space than what the buyout does to them.
As for Parise, it seems to me he's kind of in a Corey Perry situation where someone will take a swing at him for cheap and maybe he just saves whatever he's got left for the playoffs if they make it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them re-signed with Minnesota for cheap after the expansion draft.
|
Don't think this is allowed anymore is it?
__________________
"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to CorsiHockeyLeague For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:09 AM
|
#29
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
|
I don't think the Suter contract was nearly as bad as the Parise contract.
While they are basically structurally identical contracts, they definitely weren't equal quality in hindsight.
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:10 AM
|
#30
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This is one of the most galaxy-brained decisions I've seen an NHL team make since yesterday
|
fyp
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 17 Users Say Thank You to chummer For This Useful Post:
|
1Nite,
BeltlineFan,
CorsiHockeyLeague,
D as in David,
Dan403,
Enoch Root,
FLAMESRULE,
ForeverFlameFan,
handgroen,
Jetfire,
JJJ,
klikitiklik,
Monahammer,
powderjunkie,
TheScorpion,
Titan2,
Tkachukwagon
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:11 AM
|
#31
|
|
First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
|
Touché, but I think this is much crazier.
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:11 AM
|
#32
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
|
I can't believe they actually bought them out. IMO terrible move... they are screwed if they falter this year. Breakout team taking a step back in the 2nd season? Never happens... 
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:12 AM
|
#33
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Have to think the Kaprizov talks haven’t gone too well, where they’re only going to be able to sign him to a high $, 1-2 year deal. Probably going all in for this season before rebuilding during those dead space years. That’s the only thing I’m coming up with.
Suter and Parise had to have made things hard on BG and refused to waive. At least Suter is still a serviceable defenseman and could’ve been had for really cheap. It was just the NMCs holding things back. Guess Minnesota really wanted to keep Dumba and have an extra forward spot to protect someone.
Does this make Suter a guy Seattle can pick from Minnesota? Or does he no longer become an option to be chosen from Minnesota because of the buy out?
|
Seattle can sign him on FA day as will 30 other teams.
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:16 AM
|
#34
|
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BC
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them re-signed with Minnesota for cheap after the expansion draft.
|
They can't sign with the same team for at least one year.
Edit: Oops that was only for Compliance Buyouts
Last edited by Skaloper; 07-13-2021 at 10:21 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:16 AM
|
#35
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
|
They must not have liked the side deals they needed to make with Seattle to protect Dumba.
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:16 AM
|
#36
|
|
First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skaloper
They can't sign with the same team for at least one year.
|
No, they can. That was only the case with compliance buyouts.
Remember Michael Stone?
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to TheScorpion For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:17 AM
|
#37
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skaloper
They can't sign with the same team for at least one year.
|
Not true.
How did the Flames buyout Michael Stone and re-sign him the same summer?
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Vinny01 For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:20 AM
|
#38
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
No, they can. That was only the case with compliance buyouts.
Remember Michael Stone?
|
Michael Stone was an exception to the rule. He was bought out and then we had an injury so we resigned him. I believe they aren’t allowed to sign if it’s for cap circumvention.
|
|
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:21 AM
|
#39
|
|
First Line Centre
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not true.
How did the Flames buyout Michael Stone and re-sign him the same summer?
|
I think the flames had to prove that it wasn't the initial plan and the signing had to get the league's approval if I remember correctly.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Flames1217 For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
07-13-2021, 10:22 AM
|
#40
|
|
First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Michael Stone was an exception to the rule. He was bought out and then we had an injury so we resigned him. I believe they aren’t allowed to sign if it’s for cap circumvention.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217
I think the flames had to prove that it wasn't the initial plan and the signing had to get the league's approval if I remember correctly.
|
There is no such rule preventing it.
Per capfriendly:
Quote:
|
For one season following a compliance buyout, players were not permitted to rejoin the team which performed the buyout (this restriction does not exist for normal buyouts).
|
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:50 PM.
|
|
