Authorities prevent Las Vegas style mass shooting at MLB All Star game

[getbak]

Originally Posted by fleury

It's great to hear a story of prevention rather than the after effect tragedy like what happened in LV. I guess the question now is, now that we've now seen this thing twice, how does that change the open air stadiums and specifically the surrounding buildings overlooking these stadiums, in the future? Any sports league cannot afford to deal with if this thing were to happen again, so how do they ensure it doesn't. For MLB, one incident would be all it would take to hurt their gate revenue for years to come. This is such a huge story that will probably not get a headline.

Looking at where this hotel is located, it doesn't appear there would have been any direct line-of-sight into the stadium itself and there aren't any public plazas in the area. If they were planning on shooting a bunch of people, it's not likely it would have been another "Vegas-style" shooting because there wouldn't have been the same large cluster of people there were at the concert.

The only thing that would have changed that is if there are plans to close off the surrounding streets for a street party type atmosphere for the ASG. If that were happening, it could have been worse than Vegas because people wouldn't have had room to disperse once the shooting started like they did in Vegas.



As it happens, the stadium in Atlanta, where the ASG was originally scheduled to be held, does have a hotel with balconies overlooking the stadium. I wouldn't be surprised if they have spotters who watch the hotel during games just in case -- and to make sure people aren't having sex on their balcony in full view of the stadium.

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Why would anyone do an illegal sale of guns right there, especially on that weekend? I understand criminals are not always the smartest bunch, but between the buyers and sellers there must have been one guy that said, "how about the motel6, next Thursday, instead?".

Reasonable to think the worst here. Let conspiracy theories fly, because trust is at an alltime low.

Yeah, that's the part of this that makes the "gun sale" story seem odd. It's not exactly a cheap "no-tell" motel. It looks like a pretty nice hotel, where the cheapest rooms later this summer are over $300 a night. I'm guessing an 8th floor room with a balcony on All-Star weekend was quite a bit more than that.

Although, given they were all charged with intent to distribute, they may have been there to be near the action of the ASG when distributing... "If you're looking to party, we've got a penthouse suite in that hotel over there and we have all the party favors you need."

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by getbak

I wouldn't be surprised if they have spotters who watch the hotel during games just in case -- and to make sure people aren't having sex on their balcony in full view of the stadium.

Like at Skydome?

Video at this link about 50s in. NSFW.

https://deadspin.com/the-c-roll-stas...e-nsfw-5841893

[djsFlames]

So you need body armour and over 1000 rounds for.... deer, right?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Like at Skydome?

Video at this link about 50s in. NSFW.

https://deadspin.com/the-c-roll-stas...e-nsfw-5841893

Yes, exactly.

Look at the view from this room's balcony: https://goo.gl/maps/yFRzSb5iga82Fc3a8


You have to think someone staying there has been tempted to see what they could get away with.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by getbak

Looking at where this hotel is located, it doesn't appear there would have been any direct line-of-sight into the stadium itself and there aren't any public plazas in the area. If they were planning on shooting a bunch of people, it's not likely it would have been another "Vegas-style" shooting because there wouldn't have been the same large cluster of people there were at the concert.

The only thing that would have changed that is if there are plans to close off the surrounding streets for a street party type atmosphere for the ASG. If that were happening, it could have been worse than Vegas because people wouldn't have had room to disperse once the shooting started like they did in Vegas.



As it happens, the stadium in Atlanta, where the ASG was originally scheduled to be held, does have a hotel with balconies overlooking the stadium. I wouldn't be surprised if they have spotters who watch the hotel during games just in case -- and to make sure people aren't having sex on their balcony in full view of the stadium.




Yeah, that's the part of this that makes the "gun sale" story seem odd. It's not exactly a cheap "no-tell" motel. It looks like a pretty nice hotel, where the cheapest rooms later this summer are over $300 a night. I'm guessing an 8th floor room with a balcony on All-Star weekend was quite a bit more than that.

Although, given they were all charged with intent to distribute, they may have been there to be near the action of the ASG when distributing... "If you're looking to party, we've got a penthouse suite in that hotel over there and we have all the party favors you need."

Sounds like all the parties involved were relatively high end drug dealers. Those guys don't get into that business for any other reason than to live the high life. Expensive cars, hotels, jewelry, women, etc... Many lack the ability of smarts to be subtle.

In Vancouver there is a special "gang squad". There only job is to identify people known to police and throw them out of whatever restaurant or bar they are in. They identify these people exclusively on the way they are dressed and carry themselves. There's a thug uniform in Vancouver. Peacocking is 100% more valuable to them than not getting arrested.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

So you need body armour and over 1000 rounds for.... deer, right?

You need it to fight other drug dealers. A major problem with gun control is that for it to be truly effective you need to control gun production too. The US, china, Russia, etc.. Continue to flood the international market with small arms. As long as this goes on, anyone buying a kilo of coke can also just as early buy a smuggled in ak47.

[81MC]

3 ‘previous offenders’. I duno, maybe weapons crimes could be treated a little more seriously?