July 8, 1947

[direwolf]

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://vault.fbi.gov/

https://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/Guy...%20of%201/view

https://www.livescience.com/13653-uf...-fbi-memo.html

In fact this memo does not refer to Roswell, but instead to a reported UFO crash in another small New Mexico town called Aztec in March 1948. David E. Thomas, a physicist and researcher with the group New Mexicans for Science and Reason, discovered that the informant mentioned in the memo was almost certainly a con man named Silas Newton, who fabricated a UFO crash hoax, complete with stories of circular flying saucers carrying 3-foot tall aliens. He tried to convince investors that he had access to crashed alien technology that would make them all rich. It turned out to be a scam, and Newton was arrested in 1952 and convicted of fraud. Newton didn't just tell his story to the Air Force investigator that Hottel mentioned; he repeated it to many others including a writer for Variety magazine named Frank Scully.

It's also suspicious that the "smoking gun" document is just an ordinary office memo. It's not classified Top Secret, or even Secret; in fact it's not classified at all. This supposed proof of crashed saucers is mentioned in an ordinary memo, with no more secrecy or concern than a request for more office staplers.

[djsFlames]

In fact this memo does not refer to Roswell, but instead to a reported UFO crash in another small New Mexico town called Aztec in March 1948. David E. Thomas, a physicist and researcher with the group New Mexicans for Science and Reason, discovered that the informant mentioned in the memo was almost certainly a con man named Silas Newton, who fabricated a UFO crash hoax, complete with stories of circular flying saucers carrying 3-foot tall aliens. He tried to convince investors that he had access to crashed alien technology that would make them all rich. It turned out to be a scam, and Newton was arrested in 1952 and convicted of fraud. Newton didn't just tell his story to the Air Force investigator that Hottel mentioned; he repeated it to many others including a writer for Variety magazine named Frank Scully.

It's also suspicious that the "smoking gun" document is just an ordinary office memo. It's not classified Top Secret, or even Secret; in fact it's not classified at all. This supposed proof of crashed saucers is mentioned in an ordinary memo, with no more secrecy or concern than a request for more office staplers.

X-files prequel incoming?

Also major intergalactic boner killer dude.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Jokes aside, I actually do.

I want aliens, if only to break our egocentric society/race that feeds us this belief that we are the most brilliant and superior creatures to ever exist, and dieties created us in their image. We would finally realize that we're largely playing at a very small and meaningless game here in the grand scheme of things, and that's a wake up that people could sorely use. It's a social experiment in ways that I would be fascinated to see unfold.

It would also be incredibly cool.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by troutman

If you think Bob Lazar is credible, he had no problem breaching his NDA.

Bob Lazar is a wack job and not credible in my eyes.