[News] Jackets goalie Matiss Kivlenieks has passed away

[combustiblefuel]

I'll be that guy.

What a stupid way to ####ing die. Yes sad that he is so young but leave the EXPLOSIONS to professionals. Everytime my idiot friends tried to do fireworks I left. Yes I'm no fun at parties��. I also don't trust people with EXPLOSIVES that have no qualifications to handle them especially * most likely* the have included alchohol inthe mix. Sad he died but completely avoidable.

I wouldn't let some homeless guy do my taxes why would I trust a * speculation * a drunken ex jock handle explosives.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I'll be that guy.

What a stupid way to ####ing die. Yes sad that he is so young but leave the EXPLOSIONS to professionals. Everytime my idiot friends tried to do fireworks I left. Yes I'm no fun at parties��. I also don't trust people with EXPLOSIVES that have no qualifications to handle them especially * most likely* the have included alchohol inthe mix. Sad he died but completely avoidable.

I wouldn't let some homeless guy do my taxes why would I trust a * speculation * a drunken ex jock handle explosives.

Clearly you haven't walked down a European street at New Years...


Stupid way to die...Definitely...but risk tolerance in this case is clearly based on exposure.

Sad to see a young man lose his life in a freak accident like this...absolutely horrible...RIP.

[Erick Estrada]

I don't even want to guess how many major injuries are suffered in the USA every July 4th. Jason Pierre-Paul blew up his hand igniting fireworks and this is one step further. Really unfortunate. RIP

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't even want to guess how many major injuries are suffered in the USA every July 4th. Jason Pierre-Paul blew up his hand igniting fireworks and this is one step further. Really unfortunate. RIP

I googled firework mortar because I wasn’t sure if it was a specific thing I didn’t understand, and a 40 year old died this 4th of July from one.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by tkflames

Clearly you haven't walked down a European street at New Years...


Stupid way to die...Definitely...but risk tolerance in this case is clearly based on exposure.

Sad to see a young man lose his life in a freak accident like this...absolutely horrible...RIP.

Clearly obviously I have not. Nor it seems will I ever. It's bad enough around here on a Saturday night when the boys wanna break out their guns to show off. My cue to exit . Every damn time. You just painted a scenario of risk assessment if I'm in a EU country to stay in place.

[JackIsBack]

But Kivlenieks’ cause of death, as listed on autopsy, is “fireworks mortar blast, chest trauma,” not a head injury as first suspected.

Unbelievably sad.... at that wedding I was at the fireworks fired directly at me into the group I was in (lucky I was quite far away and watching them light them - but others were just too close and no one announced them), I just side stepped the blast and pulled my child away, I thought nothing of it immediately after in the commotion and was a little miffed at the time that they didn’t anchor the base of the fireworks (not too mad, just surprised at their mistake or them simply not knowing how to set them up)… About 15 minutes later, I noticed a lady sitting with her leg up on her knee attending a small burn that she said wasn’t too bad (although I didn’t look closely – she seemed too nice to complain and wreck the wedding day).

Depending on the size of the firework and how far away he was (and the group) – these things can go terribly wrong quickly, and for a bystander to be injured and die – wow, whoever lite that firework must feel terrible. Fireworks can be fun…. I just think people need to know how to anchor the pack and spend more time setting them up, you can’t (or more like should not) just place them on the ground and light them off (and never light them while holding them in your hand).

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I'll be that guy.

What a stupid way to ####ing die. Yes sad that he is so young but leave the EXPLOSIONS to professionals. Everytime my idiot friends tried to do fireworks I left. Yes I'm no fun at parties��. I also don't trust people with EXPLOSIVES that have no qualifications to handle them especially * most likely* the have included alchohol inthe mix. Sad he died but completely avoidable.

I wouldn't let some homeless guy do my taxes why would I trust a * speculation * a drunken ex jock handle explosives.

I’ve always been the “but somebody could get hurt” guy at parties, so when stuff like this happens, I can get a little judgy as well, but doesn’t make the situation any less sad. Also keep in mind that he may have been concerned about the fireworks and others were still driven to set them off or convinced him it was fine.

It may not have been a stupid way to die as much as a stupid way for someone else to accidentally kill someone. I don’t think we have enough context to know if this was his own personal misadventure.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

For such a small country and considering how few NHLers they produce, they seem to have more than their fair share of good players pass away well before their time. Skrastins, Zholtoks, and now Kivlenieks.

Very sad news.

Also, Kristians Pelss.

[dino7c]

there are also different caliber of fireworks...some are best left to professionals.

I am guessing these multimillionaires weren't playing with black snakes or roman candles

[Robo]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I'll be that guy.

What a stupid way to ####ing die. Yes sad that he is so young but leave the EXPLOSIONS to professionals. Everytime my idiot friends tried to do fireworks I left. Yes I'm no fun at parties��. I also don't trust people with EXPLOSIVES that have no qualifications to handle them especially * most likely* the have included alchohol inthe mix. Sad he died but completely avoidable.

I wouldn't let some homeless guy do my taxes why would I trust a * speculation * a drunken ex jock handle explosives.

The police said the person using the fireworks was in compliance with state laws wouldn't that mean they hired someone to come shoot them off? Or the guys just wasn't intoxicated?

[hwy19man]

"A woman told a 911 dispatcher that Columbus Blue Jackets goaltender Matiss Kivlenieks was "getting ready to go into convulsions" after he was struck in the chest by an errant Fourth of July fireworks mortar blast at a Michigan home where he was training."

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...ss-kivlenieks/

[bluejays]

Guys, mistakes happen. Certainly we all second guess in hindsight, but every single one of us has made poor decisions at various points. Whether this was his or someone else's fault, or just a simple unforeseeable mistake, who knows. It really sucks to have such a freak thing happen.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Robo

The police said the person using the fireworks was in compliance with state laws wouldn't that mean they hired someone to come shoot them off? Or the guys just wasn't intoxicated?

Pretty vague and nowhere near enough to get the person out of civil liability.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by hwy19man

"A woman told a 911 dispatcher that Columbus Blue Jackets goaltender Matiss Kivlenieks was "getting ready to go into convulsions" after he was struck in the chest by an errant Fourth of July fireworks mortar blast at a Michigan home where he was training."

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...ss-kivlenieks/

So, if he was there for official Blue Jackets business/training, would this be considered a workplace function? I know in some places, an employer can be held accountable for accidents that happen at holiday parties put on by the company.

[Wood]

~8 firework related deaths happen a year worldwide. The guy made a career of getting pucks shot at him daily by the best athletes in the world, all while they skate at him full speed with blades on their feet

Sometimes the worst case scenario comes to fruition, but you cant live you're life in fear beacuse *maybe* it could happen to you. Matiss was far from the only person in the States around fireworks on the 4th

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Also, Kristians Pelss.

Arturs Irbe

[stang]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Arturs Irbe

He’s still alive isn’t he?

[Ped]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

So, if he was there for official Blue Jackets business/training, would this be considered a workplace function? I know in some places, an employer can be held accountable for accidents that happen at holiday parties put on by the company.

Was it official business? I thought he and Elvis were there for the wedding of Legace's daughter.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ped

Was it official business? I thought he and Elvis were there for the wedding of Legace's daughter.

I don't know. The post I quoted said he was there for training.

[gt4flames]

The win at MSG. Awesome. One of >8000 players and one of >800 goalies to play in the show. He accomplished more in 24 years then most people will try and achieve in a lifetime