06-01-2021, 02:49 PM
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They were 2 points from being the team that took out Toronto.
Those floater efforts mid-season against Ottawa including that matinee can't happen next season.
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06-01-2021, 03:32 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by chedder
I would have hoped that the players wouldn't need someone to tell them they need to train. I'm guessing MacKinnon never needed that. And Gio for that matter.
Country club alive and well it seems.
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Am I misreading Gaudreau? From the article I took it that he would normally already be back training by now or back this week if he only takes a couple of weeks off.
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06-01-2021, 03:43 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Savvy27
Am I misreading Gaudreau? From the article I took it that he would normally already be back training by now or back this week if he only takes a couple of weeks off.
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I read it that way, too.
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06-01-2021, 03:50 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
They were 2 points from being the team that took out Toronto.
Those floater efforts mid-season against Ottawa including that matinee can't happen next season.
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LOL. Really?
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06-01-2021, 03:51 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Savvy27
Am I misreading Gaudreau? From the article I took it that he would normally already be back training by now or back this week if he only takes a couple of weeks off.
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I think “a couple weeks” is doing a fair bit of work in that quote. And there’s training and there’s TRAINING. I read an old article from 2015 about both Gaudreau and Gio training and it was pretty apparent that Gio was a beast and Johnny needed help.
There’s some pretty hokey writing in that article (sorry if anyone here wrote it). “Retina-searing” stats?
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06-01-2021, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Originally Posted by justing
At some point do they chop wood, then proceed to carry water?
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That is phase 2. Remember, this is a process.
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06-01-2021, 04:16 PM
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#27
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I think people are reading too much into this.
This team has plenty of issues, but I don't think fitness is one of them
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I’ve been impressed and the coaches and management, we’ve all been really impressed at how the guys have come in and the shape of our group. It’s been excellent.”
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https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...itness-related
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06-01-2021, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
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Agreed. They didn’t play east west, and perimeter hockey without pace for whole games because of conditioning
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06-01-2021, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
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Ya you’re right, Sutter probably has no idea what he’s talking about.
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06-01-2021, 04:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
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That's his POV, Sutter may think differently.
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06-01-2021, 05:05 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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Wait were taking Wards word for it now over Sutter?
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06-01-2021, 05:06 PM
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When the coach spends a good portion of his (post game ) interviews addressing lack of pace and tempo, as well as quality of commitment to playing hard shift to shift....
Is it really that large a leap of logic to believe that he may be very concerned and adamant about addressing fitness levels?
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06-01-2021, 05:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Wonder what is the start date for Andersson
He seems to be out of gas most of the time
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06-01-2021, 05:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Shazam
That's his POV, Sutter may think differently.
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Yeah, Sutter himself said the Flames struggled to keep pace with other teams. I think this would explain a lot considering they couldn't sustain come backs. Players can probably be fit and still have poor endurance levels.
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06-01-2021, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
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The guys were in great shape under Ward, to turn the dial up on the music during practice.
Also that article was from before the bubble tournament. So it's all relative, they may have been in "great shape" compared to what they thought they would be after a layoff.
Also, they may have been in great shape in July 2020 hence they won a playoff round.
They didn't look like they were in great shape this past season. They came out flat and if it wasn't for Markstrom, they would have been in a huge hole.
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06-01-2021, 05:39 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by keenan87
LOL. Really?
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Yup. The Toronto collapse was inevitable.
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06-01-2021, 06:25 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Yup. The Toronto collapse was inevitable.
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And delicous.
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06-01-2021, 06:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by keenan87
LOL. Really?
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No
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06-01-2021, 07:27 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Originally Posted by keenan87
LOL. Really?
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Definitely a possibility.
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06-01-2021, 08:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Pretty telling that he'd admit allot of guys haven't seen this before by one of the coaches they've managed to sack in this past few years.
After hearing.....they thought it would be easier coming from Lindholm.
Sounds like an entitled country club atmosphere.....yeah i put in the work Last year or I earned my merit kind of bull####.
Resting on past accomplishments means you'll start with nothing and end up with nothing if you don't try and always improve.
This is what Sutter is talking about. He's not here to coach losers and he made that pretty damn clear to me from his first go around .
I sure hope these guys will commit , be accountable and not just rest continually on mediocrity.
The whole " we thought it would be easier" doesn't at all sit well with me and I don't want any of those players on our team.
Watching players who once played here excel and contribute to their new teams makes me crazy.
Tells you all you need to know about the attitude and lack of winning culture here.
Time to give a F
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