Economist Ranks Canada 5th in Global Democracy

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Muffins

I'm more intrigued by a country named Chili though. I imagine their 2 main political parties would be Meat and Vegetable.

Third party = Spices.

There's not a lot of them, but they have a big impact on the overall outcome.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Muffins

I'm more intrigued by a country named Chili though. I imagine their 2 main political parties would be Meat and Vegetable.

There are only two parties in Chili. The Frijoles Party and the No Beans Party.

And let me tell you that they don't agree on anything.


There was once a 'Maize Party' but all the members were rounded up and killed in the Great Purge.

[CroFlames]

Can't believe CC didn't go with an r/prequelmeme's staple here:

[CaptainCrunch]

Side note, I'm kind of lost my passion for Star Wars gifs for a while.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Side note, I'm kind of lost my passion for Star Wars gifs for a while.

[Fuzz]

Side side note. One of you needs to change your avatar.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Lets see a democracy where committee's don't work and are in a constant state of fillibuster, corruption is the name of the day, there's zero transparency, and the best product to sell the government is redaction ink. A democracy where the country's leader rarely shows up for house of commons, his government refuses to answer questions. A democracy where a department loses multiple billions in dollars and projects and refuses to cooperate with the PBO. A democracy where a budget hasn't been released in two years, whereas provinces and other countries still manage to release theirs.



Yeah no, I don't think its accurate unless we can show that those other democracies behind us are even worse.

I'm legitimately asking this. Doesn't show up for parliament? Are people upset that he's doing it virtually, or that he doesn't show up at all. I've seen some stats and it doesn't seem all that different from Harper, who attended 35% in his final year. Seems like Trudeau is on about the same attendance record, while having additional meetings about covid. Now I'm not justifying that percentage because it's terrible, but I don't remember Con supporters make a huge stink about Harper previously.

Last stat I saw on the covid meetings were something like Trudeau attended 16 of 25 and O'Toole attended 3 of 25.

I keep seeing this complaint pop up, and while I think the attendance record for everyone is terrible, maybe I'm not seeing the right numbers or I'm missing what the complaint actually is. If it's about doing it virtually I don't understand it at all.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Muffins

I'm more intrigued by a country named Chili though. I imagine their 2 main political parties would be Meat and Vegetable.

True but the baleful influence of their evil neighbour Veganzuala has been a terrible destabilizing influence on the region for years

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I have relatives that live overseas.

When they hear what Canadian scandals and corruption are they laugh and say "I wish that was our biggest problem!"

I'm not excusing any wrongdoings by any politician or political party, obviously they shouldn't happen.

The WE Scandal was a scandal and rightfully so. But if that's our BIG scandal? We're actually in really good shape.

It's not like a politician incited a coup d'etat killing agents of the state, and then had a partisan acquittal of the failed coup.

It's not like the Leader of the Opposition has been arrested because he opposes the Leader of the Nation.

Again, our scandals SHOULD NOT happen. But we're we're not even small potatoes in comparison, we're basically comparing a drop of water to a nuclear meltdown.

Yep, I feel like watching Canadian news is mostly a relaxing experience covering fairly trivial info that can be easily missed without feeling concerned. It's as though time passes much, much, much more slowly here. It feels like watching village news or something and it's kind of charming in a way.

[MoneyGuy]

No coincidence that those lists (most democratic, best places to live, citizen satisfaction) are always dominated by Canada, Australia, NZ, and Scandinavian countries).

[troutman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile

There are various theories about the origin of the word Chile. According to 17th-century Spanish chronicler Diego de Rosales,[15] the Incas called the valley of the Aconcagua Chili by corruption of the name of a Picunche tribal chief (cacique) called Tili, who ruled the area at the time of the Incan conquest in the 15th century.[16][17] Another theory points to the similarity of the valley of the Aconcagua with that of the Casma Valley in Peru, where there was a town and valley named Chili.[17]

Other theories say Chile may derive its name from a Native American word meaning either 'ends of the earth' or 'sea gulls';[18] from the Mapuche word chilli, which may mean 'where the land ends'"[19] or from the Quechua chiri, 'cold',[20] or tchili, meaning either 'snow'[20][21] or "the deepest point of the Earth".[22] Another origin attributed to chilli is the onomatopoeic cheele-cheele—the Mapuche imitation of the warble of a bird locally known as trile.[19][23]

The Spanish conquistadors heard about this name from the Incas, and the few survivors of Diego de Almagro's first Spanish expedition south from Peru in 1535–36 called themselves the "men of Chilli".[19] Ultimately, Almagro is credited with the universalization of the name Chile, after naming the Mapocho valley as such.[17] The older spelling "Chili" was in use in English until at least 1900 before switching to "Chile".[24]

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

No coincidence that those lists (most democratic, best places to live, citizen satisfaction) are always dominated by Canada, Australia, NZ, and Scandinavian countries).

Countries with vast social programs who support their citizens in virtually all scenarios... weird. It's as if supporting your citizens makes them happier and gives them better lives.

[FireGilbert]

Interesting to see Canada ahead of Australia, with Australia dropping below 9 for the first time. On the surface the Australian political system seems more "democratic" with preferential voting and a Triple-E senate but Canada is likely doing better on issues of corruption and media diversity.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Interesting to see Canada ahead of Australia, with Australia dropping below 9 for the first time. On the surface the Australian political system seems more "democratic" with preferential voting and a Triple-E senate but Canada is likely doing better on issues of corruption and media diversity.

I didn't read the criteria, but I wonder if it helps that Canada has 5 parties represented in parliament and Australia only 3.

[Mull]

For those questioning this metric to the point they think its laughable, below is another group that sort of aligns with the Economist results. While they are measuring different things of course, I would argue they are relatable given their definition.

This isn't to say the Economist metric is perfect in any way, just another study to provide context.

Australia also barley gets beat in this metric by Canada. Probably a rounding error margin to be honest given how imperfect these metrics are.

People care about the top 10, or top 5, but in truth, general year after year trends probably matter a lot more than exact position.

Freedom in the World is a yearly survey and report by the U.S.-based[3] and partially U.S. government funded[4] non-governmental organization Freedom House that measures the degree of civil liberties and political rights in every nation and significant related and disputed territories around the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World

Canada tied for 5th with 3 others
Australia tied for 8th with 4 others
Uruguay crushing it in this list as well. My bias are showing as I had no idea, seems like a interesting place to visit.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I didn't read the criteria, but I wonder if it helps that Canada has 5 parties represented in parliament and Australia only 3.

I think it has more to do with Australia being the kind of sick country that kicks people with a giant boot.

[Weitz]

Seems pretty accurate.

Appears that the measurement is mostly on voting and freedom and things like that which seems right. Doesn't mean you won't get bad governments from time to time, but you do get a prescribed timeline that you can vote accordingly.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Yep, I feel like watching Canadian news is mostly a relaxing experience covering fairly trivial info .

Like https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/winds...zers-1.5915155 ?

[jayswin]

Our parties all kind of suck right now and with social media being big on "everything's corrupt and ****ed!!!" it's created a perfect storm of ever industrialized nation thinking that their democracy is failing.

US democracy is failing and is appropriately ranked in this article, not every country is failing just because current governments suck.

[Samonadreau]

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