02-16-2021, 11:21 AM
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if given the option, would the Jets fans want their REAL Jets team back, or keep the frauds in Jets' silks?
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02-16-2021, 11:28 AM
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#22
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Why are you lumping Florida in with them? They haven't been a fantastic franchise, but they're still nowhere near as bad as Arizona.
Florida is 1 point back in their division and 5th overall in the league. Team isn't moving because of the sweetheart lease deal. Also, they're technically drawing more fans than any Canadian team.  |
Hahah I’m sorry.. I just feel like they are the 2nd most problematic franchise due to less fan support and historically don’t want to pay players so they continually offload talent and replace them with bargain bin players and the cycle continues.
Arizona, Florida, Carolina and NYI I would say have all had their fare share of issues but yes you are right Arizona is alone on an island as being the biggest joke in the league.
I also would love to see the Nordiques return and relocating Arizona doesn’t help with that as no other team can be moved into the west once things get back to normal.
But, like I said I’m sorry hahah they are looking outstanding this year and when they are a better team fan interest improves so I shouldn’t pick on them.
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02-16-2021, 11:33 AM
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#23
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The Coyotes aren't cursed. They're a brutally bleeding franchise in a terrible location for hockey. They get the bottom of the barrel as a result. It's not a curse, it's asset quality.
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02-16-2021, 11:41 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
I wonder if given the option, would the Jets fans want their REAL Jets team back, or keep the frauds in Jets' silks?
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I think it would be cool to have a paper transaction where the Thrashers are retired or rolled into the Coyotes and Winnipeg gets the Jets 1.0 history.
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02-16-2021, 11:49 AM
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#25
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
I wonder if given the option, would the Jets fans want their REAL Jets team back, or keep the frauds in Jets' silks?
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Get rid of the Planes bring back the Jets.
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02-16-2021, 11:50 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I think it would be cool to have a paper transaction where the Thrashers are retired or rolled into the Coyotes and Winnipeg gets the Jets 1.0 history.
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The Browns moved to Baltimore. Now we have the Browns 2.0. I don't know what each side does with franchise records.
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02-16-2021, 11:57 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
The Browns moved to Baltimore. Now we have the Browns 2.0. I don't know what each side does with franchise records.
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I dunno an exchange of money and the Coyotes get custody of Shane Doan
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02-16-2021, 12:01 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Other than being a billionaire, mandatory precursors to being an NHL team owner are one's love of the game and one's sincere commitment to treating the team as your community asset. Neither Meruelo nor Gutierrez seem to possess those qualities whatsoever. What's going on there is not at all surprising and, actually, was to be expected.
Honestly, I have zero understanding of Bettman's fixation on developing Arizona hockey market...
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02-16-2021, 12:04 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Other than being a billionaire, mandatory precursors to being an NHL team owner are one's love of the game and one's sincere commitment to treating the team as your community asset. Neither Meruelo nor Gutierrez seem to possess those qualities whatsoever. What's going on there is not at all surprising and, actually, was to be expected.
Honestly, I have zero understanding of Bettman's fixation on developing Arizona hockey market...
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To be fair, we got Matthew Tkachuk out of it. Although, the Tkachuk brothers probably no different regardless of where Keith is playing
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02-16-2021, 12:40 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Jordan!
I have seen this personally and it will be very hard to continue being a Coyotes fan or to support this org..
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They’re going to miss their fan.
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02-16-2021, 01:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Other than being a billionaire, mandatory precursors to being an NHL team owner are one's love of the game and one's sincere commitment to treating the team as your community asset. Neither Meruelo nor Gutierrez seem to possess those qualities whatsoever. What's going on there is not at all surprising and, actually, was to be expected.
Honestly, I have zero understanding of Bettman's fixation on developing Arizona hockey market...
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In theory, it should be a good market. It's a large growing city. Many transplants from the north. Their lower levels of hockey are picking up steam in the state. Geographically, it fills a gap as well. It's also relatively wealthy and the demographics look good on paper.
They just made so many poor decisions the whole way.
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02-16-2021, 01:23 PM
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
The Coyotes aren't cursed. They're a brutally bleeding franchise in a terrible location for hockey. They get the bottom of the barrel as a result. It's not a curse, it's asset quality.
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Disagree whole heartedly.
Right location, right owners this team is a success
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02-16-2021, 01:54 PM
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nik- is right, Glendale is a terrible location for an NHL team.
Phoenix would be a fine spot. But they aren't there and it's a pain in the ass for people to get to Glendale. Hence, attendance problems.
Also, this article is an absolutely terrible look for the team, my goodness. Great reporting by Katie Strang.
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02-16-2021, 02:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Originally Posted by troutman
The Browns moved to Baltimore. Now we have the Browns 2.0. I don't know what each side does with franchise records.
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The Ravens are considered an expansion team made up of former Browns, while the current Browns are a continuation of the original franchise. No idea why the NHL hasn’t done the same for the Jets.
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02-16-2021, 02:04 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
nik- is right, Glendale is a terrible location for an NHL team.
Phoenix would be a fine spot. But they aren't there and it's a pain in the ass for people to get to Glendale. Hence, attendance problems.
Also, this article is an absolutely terrible look for the team, my goodness. Great reporting by Katie Strang.
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Funny thing is - you get there and the arena is great and the entertainment area is pretty good. But surely there were other options. On the reserve near Talking Stick. In the University district.
It’s not so much that Glendale is far from Phoenix. It’s that it’s far from Scottsdale.
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02-16-2021, 02:05 PM
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#37
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Uncle Chester
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Sounds like Alex Meruelo and co. are upset that they've been exposed as the chiseling chiselers that they are.
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02-16-2021, 02:08 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by Nsd1
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That is like heckling the comedian holding the microphone.....not going to end well.
You heard rumblings that things were bad down there....nope its worse.
Absolute gong show.
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02-16-2021, 02:53 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Originally Posted by Nsd1
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Is Trump writing his press releases??
This is hilarious. A simple ‘no comment’ would have been better.
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02-16-2021, 03:17 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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If you told me 12 months ago there would be an owner who would easily take the crown from Eugene Melnyk, I would've thought you were insane.
But here we are.
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