Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau Appreciation thread

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Come on man. You want to run one or both of these guys out of town - there is no wait and see with your narrative. When others are talking about their flaws your posts are non stop. It's totally transparent.

You seem to have only one outcome that would be sufficient.

Tell me where I'm wrong.
And to clarify - I've never advocated to run Monahan out of town.

Be curious, not judgmental.

[Strange Brew]

They have been good through 5 games IMO. I don't know what's worthy of a thread really, but not sure I see any harm in people wanting to point that out. And this coming from someone who thinks Monahan should have been dealt.

If you watch the Flames and don't get excited when a player like Gaudreau is on his game, then why are you watching?

[Monahammer]

IMO Monahan has been more consistently good throughout the season than Johnny, but I digress.

The point of the thread is positivity for the players. Too often we get down on the team here, we pitch them in trades (i am guilty of this all the time) or we generally harsh on them.

These two guys have done specifically what we all wanted of them. They have come out strong and hard with effort, they have played 2 way hockey, and they are putting up points at a great clip. They deserve some kudos after 5 games with hopes that they will take our energy and continue to climb.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It's not lost on me that they are playing with 4th liners to start the season.

I know they made Ferland, Hudler and Colborne look good, but those guys could handle and shoot the puck.

I don't think Simon and Levio are bad players, I just think they are better suited for a 4th line energy role.

When Dube is healthy does Mangiapane get a shot with JG and SM ?

Or Dube could go with them, and Mangiapane continues with Lindholm.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Until near season end and playoffs begin...

Gotta get there first...some other guys will need to step up too

[TheIronMaiden]

Love him or hate him Monahan could very well be top five in franchise goals for the Flames before the season is over. He is almost 100% going to be top 6.

He is also top 50 in goals among active players in the NHL.

The guy is a stud. He will be remembered as one of the great Flames.

[ForeverFlameFan]

They’re doing what they should be doing. Not gonna praise them for that.

‘19 was their all time highs, ‘20 as their all time low. I’m expecting more of the middle and then some.

[Jay Random]

Came to see how soon someone would crap all over the thread and say it shouldn't even exist.

Read post #2. Left satisfied.

Jiri, maybe you need to reflect that this is a discussion board, not a board for discussing only those things that you think ought to be discussed.

[Johnny Makarov]

We are royally effed if we ever lose Gaudreau.

Think of the early Iginla years where you would trade a kidney or a liver for a goal.... except this time we don't have Iginla.

[Erick Estrada]

It's a little early for threads like this just as it is with a lot of early season overreaction. It is good to see these guys play at a point a game pace early in the season but the individual accomplishments don't really matter when the record after five games is a mediocre 2-2-1. I'm sure if they can maintain this pace it may lead to good things for the Flames but time will tell. I would hope some fans will appreciate Johnny Hockey as when he's gone I suspect this team may be heading back to missing the playoffs annually.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Came to see how soon someone would crap all over the thread and say it shouldn't even exist.

Read post #2. Left satisfied.

Jiri, maybe you need to reflect that this is a discussion board, not a board for discussing only those things that you think ought to be discussed.

Isn't what I'm doing discussing the topic? I disagree with the premise of the thread - which is what I articulated.

Where did I say this isn't allowed?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's a little early for threads like this just as it is with a lot of early season overreaction. It is good to see these guys play at a point a game pace early in the season but the individual accomplishments don't really matter when the record after five games is a mediocre 2-2-1. I'm sure if they can maintain this pace it may lead to good things for the Flames but time will tell. I would hope some fans will appreciate Johnny Hockey as when he's gone I suspect this team may be heading back to missing the playoffs annually.

Careful - apparently we aren't allowed to disagree with the premise of the thread.

[bdubbs]

No, but the thread title says 'appreciation thread', so in keeping with the rules, shouldn't posts be reserved for appreciating them? I think they're both had ups and down this season but definitely more positive than negative.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Careful - apparently we aren't allowed to disagree with the premise of the thread.

If there were no disagreements, internet forums would be a boring place. I don't disagree with the title of the thread as I think Gaudreau is underappreciated but it's been only 5 games which is an extremely small sample size. While their play has been encouraging, these two need to bring it for most of the season for this team to have any sort of success.

[bax]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

They’re doing what they should be doing. Not gonna praise them for that.

‘19 was their all time highs, ‘20 as their all time low. I’m expecting more of the middle and then some.

LOL

Some people can't enjoy Monahan and Gaudreau for what they are. Are they perfect players? No, but they are crucial to the success of the Calgary Flames.

Not going to praise them? They are outscoring the opposition 3 to 1 at even strength and both have 7 points in 5 games. That is a 114 point pace. What more do they need to be doing to get your praise?

114 point pace for 6-7 million dollar players is not "doing what they should be doing"

[N-E-B]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being happy that our two most criticized players are scoring at the same pace or better than most of the best players in the game.

Nobody is saying Monahan is on the same level as MacKinnon or McDavid, but the fact is that he’s producing at a better rate to start the season than MacKinnon and is just barely behind McDavid.

What’s wrong with positivity? It’s a miracle people want to sign here at all. How much higher of a bar do we need to hold for these players?

Absolutely nothing wrong with showing them some love for having a good start to the season. That’s all this is. This isn’t the “Sean Monahan is better than McDavid” thread.

[Strange Brew]

If you are going to criticize a player, you should at least acknowledge when they are playing well. Otherwise expect to have your views dismissed as lacking in substance.

IMO Gaudreau has been better than adequate through 5 games. At least from what I have seen, and the numbers seem to support that.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I would pump the brakes a little, as I would largely describe their performance as adequate so far. They've been week 5 on 5 in some games, and slow to start in others.
Not worthy of thread-dedicated praise yet. Trending in the right way, but they should be held to a higher bar.

I look at this thread more of a "stop shirting on them before the season's even a week old" thread. It's nice to see them not slumping out of the gate, or CP would be even more unbearable with the handwringing.

Can you imagine if they started the season like Elias Pettersson. The pitchforks would definitely be out, and the handwringing of why Tre didn't trade them to Columbus (like Columbus would have automatically accepted it) would have made this a not so fun place to be.

[dino7c]

If they weren't playing well the same people who refuse to give them credit would be losing their #### about it right now...even though its regular season

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by bax

LOL

Some people can't enjoy Monahan and Gaudreau for what they are. Are they perfect players? No, but they are detrimental to the success of the Calgary Flames...

"Instrumental"?

I mean, if they suck then yes, Monahan and Gaudreau are detrimental to the success of the Flames, but I suspect that is not quite what you are saying.