[Signing] Hoffman signs with St Louis (1 year, $4m AAV)

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yeah good luck getting the PA to agree to that.

Not the salary. The salary would still be paid to the player.

Just the cap hit and counting towards the cap that gets waived. Have a special career ending injury list.

But would allow these teams to not have to do this weird LTIR at the start of seasons, and get rid of weird trades like the Gaborik trade today.

Would be good for the PA because If the players aren’t counting towards the roster or salary cap that should mean more jobs/money is technically available.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Not the salary. The salary would still be paid to the player.

Just the cap hit and counting towards the cap that gets waived. Have a special career ending injury list.

But would allow these teams to not have to do this weird LTIR at the start of seasons, and get rid of weird trades like the Gaborik trade today.

Would be good for the PA because If the players aren’t counting towards the roster or salary cap that should mean more jobs/money is technically available.

Okay then good luck getting the owners to agree to that. Removing a player's cap hit while still paying them salary is bypassing 50/50 revenue split and giving the players a larger share.

[neo45]

Easiest solution is to just allow a reserve of 1.075M per injured player to allow teams to replace injured roster players with call ups or signings without exceeding the cap

And make teams be cap compliant for the entire season

Boom solved

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Jesus.

Hoffman on a PTO is downright criminal. He's not a complete player, but he can shoot the puck with the absolute elite players in the NHL. Give him a clear lane to the net and he'll give you a good chance of scoring a goal. He's that good with his shot. On top of that, he's an elite powerplay guy.

I'm shocked that nobody else wanted to give this guy a straight up contract. He's not a bum by any stretch, and would instantly upgrade most team's top 6 forwards. I know the NHL is in a cap and revenue crunch, but this is a guy would be good value at up to $5 million a year.


Stunning.

After not catching on in the first couple days waiting for a team to have LTIR space was his best chance to make a good pay cheque. Make no mistake, he will sign with the Blues. No pre season and he likely has some verbal guarantees that they will be a bit easier on him in camp so he has less injury risk.

[Geeoff]

The Blues have 2 injured top 6 forwards and are replacing them with 1, and like Hoffman is pretty 1-dimensional. Blues are worse this season than last.

[TheScorpion]

Wait who's St Louis' second injured top six forward? You're not referring to Steen, are you? Because he's not close to top six at this point.

[stang]

Originally Posted by neo45

Easiest solution is to just allow a reserve of 1.075M per injured player to allow teams to replace injured roster players with call ups or signings without exceeding the cap

And make teams be cap compliant for the entire season

Boom solved

That’s a terrible idea.

[jlh2640]

Not sure I like the precedent that’s being established here. Seems like cap circumvention to me 🤷#♂️

[Ped]

How is it cap circumvention? He's not signed to a contract. If another team wanted to sign him, they still could.


Bigger issue for the Blues is if they sign Hoffman, where do they find money for Vince Dunn?



Man that Faulk extension was a terrible idea.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Jesus.

Hoffman on a PTO is downright criminal. He's not a complete player, but he can shoot the puck with the absolute elite players in the NHL. Give him a clear lane to the net and he'll give you a good chance of scoring a goal. He's that good with his shot. On top of that, he's an elite powerplay guy.

I'm shocked that nobody else wanted to give this guy a straight up contract. He's not a bum by any stretch, and would instantly upgrade most team's top 6 forwards. I know the NHL is in a cap and revenue crunch, but this is a guy would be good value at up to $5 million a year.


Stunning.

I mean it was stunning when I read the thread title. But the first few posts clarified that this is not a PTO aimed at trying to find a contract. It was signed as an agreement is in place to sign in St. Louis as soon as LTIR starts, as he wanted to go to St. Louis. This just gets him into the organization, practising with the team and all that.

If St. Louis didn't have the LTIR snag the title would have been "Hoffman signs in St. Louis".

[sureLoss]

deal official
https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/hoffm...es/c-320182392

1 year, $4 mil

[transplant99]

What a deal for St Louis.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Okay then good luck getting the owners to agree to that. Removing a player's cap hit while still paying them salary is bypassing 50/50 revenue split and giving the players a larger share.

I could see a lot of the big money teams actually wanting to see something like that implemented.

They already did away with the 50/50 revenue split guarantee in the new CBA extension, albeit with the league’s intention of going back to that in the next CBA. The league has also already agreed in the past to things like compliance buyouts which put salaries over their 50/50 split in the past so I don’t think they’re stuck on the 50/50 split in situations where it’s to their benefit to deviate from it.

On Hoffman, this is a steal for St. Louis

[Vinny01]

Huge steal for the Blues.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The immediate response when these things happen is to think, "what, no other team could do better than that? I can think of five teams off the top of my head that could have used his services at 4.5, at least, and have him play with players who will help him put up more points than anyone the Blues have."

But on the other hand, he's going to be relied on as the guy to put pucks in the net for them and will get a lot of opportunity to do so, so I guess that's the plan here.

[Huntingwhale]

What happened to the whole Instagram thing?