Listen tot he Arab Street...they ARE LOSING!!!

[Daradon]

Was just going to say that Rogue.

Everytime someone questions use of force, someone else has to bring up WW1 or WW2. Well WW2 was sixty years ago!

Not saying we shouldn't remember and honour, but I will say the rules have changed since then. What worked then just doesn't work now. And this conflict is very different anyway.

Originally Posted by tjinaz

Both Germany and Japan had democracy forced upon them on the tip of an American Bayonet. Americans wrote the current Japanese constitution. Look how they turned out. Granted there are ideological and cultural differences but there were big diffences between Germany and Japan as well. Only time will tell how Iraq turns out. Even if it goes well I am sure the left will find a reason other than GWB why the Middle East suddenly went democratic. There is so much spin on both sides I wonder if there is only one truth anymore.


http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/rubin082005.htm

[FlamesAddiction]

Not sure about Japan, but I know the concept of democracy was not a foreign one in pre-war Germany. They did have the Weimar Republic.

I'm not sure about the title of this thread. Is the assertation that "they are losing" mean that at one time "they" were actually winning? Assuming "they" are Al Qaeda, then "they" were never winning. They never enjoyed majority support in the Arab world (especially in secular Jordan), so the fact people in Jordan are protesting the terrorist attack doesn't mean anything has changed because of events in the past few years.