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Old 11-24-2005, 12:23 PM   #21
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I think I just saw your recent addition to the CP yearbook, and judging by that I will go out on a limb and say you don't have a daughter currently in grade six?
Oh geez, there's probably a chance.

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I am not against pre-marital sex by any means, but how fast kids are growing up these days, and the age in which kids are becoming sexually active without the emotional faculties to deal with the consequences is absolutely terrifying to a parent.
I'm not actually a parent myself, but I can definitely see where those parents are coming from... The way you see younger girls dressing and acting these days is somewhat disturbing... It's the media though, really...
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:35 PM   #22
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If you're blaming "the media" then you're effectively on the long, slippery slope to agreeing that a woman in India can be charged by the state for saying that men shouldn't expect brides to be virgins.

While advertising and peer pressure represent formidible reasons for certain behaviour, people are ultimately responsible for themselves and people are responsible for how they are raising their children. Not the media.

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Old 11-24-2005, 12:45 PM   #23
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While advertising and peer pressure represent formidible reasons for certain behaviour, people are ultimately responsible for themselves and people are responsible for how they are raising their children. Not the media.

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I agree. I'm simply saying that the media puts out terrible examples for young girls to follow. Pop singers in skimpy shirts and tight jeans worn just above said person's crotch... Perfect looking air-brushed models showing off 'what a woman should be'. It does effect them, they see this nonsense and think "well, that's what is cool, I gotta be like this" or "I have to act like this person does". It's true that they are ultimately responsible (along with their parents) for their actions, but at that age it's hell in a hand basket to tell them no, or for them to use common sense...
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:45 PM   #24
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If you're blaming "the media" then you're effectively on the long, slippery slope to agreeing that a woman in India can be charged by the state for saying that men shouldn't expect brides to be virgins.

While advertising and peer pressure represent formidible reasons for certain behaviour, people are ultimately responsible for themselves and people are responsible for how they are raising their children. Not the media.

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Agree 100% with this. I can't hold the media responsible for what happens in a household where I make the rules.

To me it seems like India is somewhat lacking in the human rights department, and still treating women as second class citizens. My wife once worked with an Indian woman who was estrangend from her family, and scared for her life if they found her because she did not want to proceed with her arranged marriage. It seems many of these women are not allowed the same degree of freedom. Is it bigotry to make such an assessment?
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:09 PM   #25
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India as a whole does have some ways to go with regards to women's rights, but in some ways it's come a long, long, way. Also, you have to understand that india is a massive country, with vastly different cultural groups in many different regions..you can't just paint the entire population (of around 1 billion) with the same brush. If you look at bollywood films for example, you can see that women can be much more "racey" than they ever used to be, and that sex is becoming more and more prominent in indian pop culture. We can act all high and mighty, but the west has to gets its act together in some regards too. It's not like human rights issues don't occur here as well.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:15 AM   #26
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I think its okay if people have sex before getting married, where else can you get the experience from. You want to be able to keep your wife happy, and not running around looking for someone else.

I don't understand why they have these rules in India, I mean we got the books and all showing positions and everything.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:52 AM   #27
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LOL @ using the Grade 6 girls as a comparison! This woman is not a pre-teen or even a high school student. The woman in question is from what I can tell a mature woman. Of course limiting what women can or cannot do by choice of religion is a Culturally Mature choice! big LARF!
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:54 PM   #28
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NEW DELHI - A popular south Indian actress has been pelted with sandals, tomatoes and rotten eggs and hauled before court for telling Indian men not to expect their brides to be virgins anymore.

Khushboo, a 35-year-old star of Tamil language movies, told a magazine in September there was nothing wrong with premarital sex -- as long as it was protected sex.

She is now out on $100 bail, and banned from making any more public comments or giving interviews.

How does this stack up against 50 Cents coming to Canada?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10173709/

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This from the culture that gave us the Karma Sutra.

And who is 50 Cents?
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:11 PM   #29
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This from the culture that gave us the Karma Sutra.

And who is 50 Cents?
Kama Sutra my friend... http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/kama_sutra/ you better get that right next time you hop into the sack with your girlfriend...Karma sutra is a Boy George song!

Fifty cents is half a buck aint it?
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:50 PM   #30
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Kama Sutra my friend... http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/kama_sutra/ you better get that right next time you hop into the sack with your girlfriend...Karma sutra is a Boy George song!

Fifty cents is half a buck aint it?
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:41 PM   #31
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Isn't it Karma Cameleon?
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