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Old 06-08-2020, 02:19 PM   #21
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I mean they acquired a guy who probably ranks as a top 5 dmen in this franchise's history and played over 1000 NHL games.

Can we not count that as a win?

They still had to pick him over 3 other guys - they made the right choice.

Frankly for me I rank Regehr over Tanguay as an NHLer.
It is a win but Feaster ruined it. I love Regehr but let's be honest, Sutter was a huge part of his development. Under idiots like Gilbert and Button he was probably destined to be a depth guy. Sutter was the key to coates winning that trade. Yes hindsight says that Regehr probably more valuable than Tanguay in the end but at the time, Calgary settled.
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:48 PM   #22
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Most teams would have something for something for nothing as trade summaries.

There aren't many Kent Nilsson trees of life in any franchise.
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Most teams would have something for something for nothing as trade summaries.

There aren't many Kent Nilsson trees of life in any franchise.
Even that one is dead

Perhaps i am too negative but if i read through all the trades we've made since 89, I just feel like wow, how did the Flames flip heads 400 times in a row over three decades and several GMs? By that I mean, you think they would've accidentally won more trades than they did just based on the law of averages. It's like we are a farm team or something. Well, from 95-03 we kind of were i guess.

I mean Jim Benning wins as many trades per year as the Flames historically do haha. It's annoying. I have ptsd flashbacks every time i hear we've made a trade.

When the two Hamilton trades rank as probably the two best trades of the cap era, you have problems. Don't they me wrong, they were good trades, fair trades for both even if Boston squandered their picks. Tre gave up value and got value. I think it's why so many think those trades were fleecings. We are just not used to actual, fair trades that are good for both so the Hamilton trades look like heists.

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Don’t forget losing Cammalleri for nothing TWICE.
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Nylander sucks...
Him and Housley annoyed the crap out of me back in the days
Both so talented, but hated being here and it showed
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Even that one is dead

Perhaps i am too negative but if i read through all the trades we've made since 89, I just feel like wow, how did the Flames flip heads 400 times in a row over three decades and several GMs? By that I mean, you think they would've accidentally won more trades than they did just based on the law of averages. It's like we are a farm team or something. Well, from 95-03 we kind of were i guess.

I mean Jim Benning wins as many trades per year as the Flames historically do haha. It's annoying. I have ptsd flashbacks every time i hear we've made a trade.

When the two Hamilton trades rank as probably the two best trades of the cap era, you have problems. Don't they me wrong, they were good trades, fair trades for both even if Boston squandered their picks. Tre gave up value and got value. I think it's why so many think those trades were fleecings. We are just not used to actual, fair trades that are good for both so the Hamilton trades look like heists.
Not sure if Saprykin and Gauthier for Langkow counts as "cap era" or not, as it was in the off-season before the first cap season, but it was a very good trade.
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Not sure if Saprykin and Gauthier for Langkow counts as "cap era" or not, as it was in the off-season before the first cap season, but it was a very good trade.
That's very true. Langkow was a beauty. Sutter converted trade value perfectly at the time. Saprykin and Gauthier would soon lose all value and Langkow was a real good player for us for years. Langkow. Huselius. Cammalleri. Tanguay. Conroy. Jokinen. Iginla had some good players to work with over the years. It wasn't a one man show as some suggest. By 2010 he was getting too old to play the same way and needed more help, instead got less. I thought we were going to win the cup in 2009.

Sutter made some really good moves and then went nuts, pretty much undoing most of the work he did as GM.

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