01-07-2020, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
MacKinnon - Crosby - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - McDavid
Stamkos - Tavares - Marner
Schiefele - ROR - Point
Huberdeau
Konecky
Couturier
Monahan
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Thats pretty amazing forward depth. Wow
Our D would be a little suspect though, and I highly doubt Gio would get consideration, Norris trophy or not.
Price having an off year too but would stil be the guy unless someone else were to force him out.
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01-07-2020, 09:07 PM
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#22
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Surprising stat of the day: Huberdeau has 7th most points since start of last season.
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
McDavid - Mackinnon - Stamkos
Huberdeau - Tavares - Marner
ROR - Scheifele - Stone
Couturier/Point
Pietrangelo Doughty
Giordano Letang
Chabot Ekblad/Weber/Burns/Hamilton?
Pretty sure they'd take Chabot, or the rotting corpse of Duncan Keith before Brodie. RH spots are pretty interesting, too.
Goal is interesting. Probably Binnington/Kuemper/Price, but not sure who is #3?
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01-07-2020, 09:10 PM
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No love for Holtby?
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01-07-2020, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Thats pretty amazing forward depth. Wow
Our D would be a little suspect though, and I highly doubt Gio would get consideration, Norris trophy or not.
Price having an off year too but would stil be the guy unless someone else were to force him out.
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It’s even more amazing when I see more names I missed. Giroux, Sequin, Dubois, Wilson...
I think they are just as deep at D.
Goal is fine, you take whatever goalies are hot that year. And Price because he’s Price, cause if he’s on he’s unbeatable.
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01-07-2020, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach
No love for Holtby?
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Was thinking about him...also MAF and Matt Murray, but I think it's more of a hot-hand situation. 2 cup-winning vets and Binnington might be ideal, though...
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01-07-2020, 10:26 PM
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The blues won the Cup last season with like six non-Canadians, I wonder what would happen if Canada sent that team but replaced Tarasenko, Maroon, Steen etc. with Crosby, McDavid, MacKinnon, Doughty, Marchand, Bergeron.
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01-07-2020, 10:43 PM
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#27
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lol. Monahan has zero chance of making the Canadian team.
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01-07-2020, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Yeah, today team Canada might actually be even more ridiculously stacked than in 2010.
Crosby, MacKinnon, McDavid, Matthews as your center depth? Holy sweet ####.
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01-07-2020, 10:59 PM
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#29
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In a hypothetical 2020 tournament, I think it's likely that we'd see a lot more Calgary representatives.
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Debbie Downer moment here but its a Summer Olympics this year.
Anyways
I'd see Gio, Chucky, Johnny, Lindy, Backs, Reider and Rittich going off to their respective countries.
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01-07-2020, 11:56 PM
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Vlasic probably makes the team as a LH D.
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01-08-2020, 12:12 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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The issue I have for Monahan is not that he’s a bad player, but that Canada just has way too much depth at centre. Just off the top of my head you have Crosby, Tavares, McDavid, and Bergeron and that’s probably ignoring 3 or 4 other very solid options.
I don’t think Derek Ryan would even be on the radar either. Not for the US.
Gaudreau is the only sure bet I would say. Tkachuk and Giordano are probably very likely. After that Backlund I’d be 50/50 on, Rittich is unlikely, Brodie is probably a safe no, and Andersson I don’t think has the name recognition or experience quite yet but I could certainly see him making a case in 4 years.
Edit: I forgot about Lindholm. I could see him on Team Sweden for sure.
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01-08-2020, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Vlasic probably makes the team as a LH D.
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I doubt it. At this point in his career Vlasic is one of the worse defensemen on his team. He certainly has one of the worst contracts in the sport. He flew under the radar when he was a truly elite shutdown guy but he's well past his good days.
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01-08-2020, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
The issue I have for Monahan is not that he’s a bad player, but that Canada just has way too much depth at centre. Just off the top of my head you have Crosby, Tavares, McDavid, and Bergeron and that’s probably ignoring 3 or 4 other very solid options.
I don’t think Derek Ryan would even be on the radar either. Not for the US.
Gaudreau is the only sure bet I would say. Tkachuk and Giordano are probably very likely. After that Backlund I’d be 50/50 on, Rittich is unlikely, Brodie is probably a safe no, and Andersson I don’t think has the name recognition or experience quite yet but I could certainly see him making a case in 4 years.
Edit: I forgot about Lindholm. I could see him on Team Sweden for sure.
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Rittich is certainly not unlikely -- he's basically a lock. The Czechs only have three NHL goaltenders. It's him, Mrazek, and Francouz.
Agreed about Ryan, I only mentioned him in the OP because he has a decent amount of experience representing the USA on the international stage in the World Championship et al, but it would have to take a ton of injuries for him to even get a sniff. Definitely unlikely.
I don't know how Tkachuk and Giordano aren't 100% shoo-ins though. Gio especially, as he plays at by far the country's weakest position and is the reigning Norris champ.
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01-08-2020, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
MacKinnon - Crosby - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - McDavid
Stamkos - Tavares - Marner
Schiefele - ROR - Point
Huberdeau
Konecky
Couturier
Monahan
Hall
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The World Cup was the first time Sid had a Sid-like performance for the whole tournament. That's when they realized they should put him with Bergeron and Marchand.
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron - the most dominant 200-foot line you could possibly assemble.
McDavid-MacKinnon-Marner - have fun chasing those three - Marner fills the Johnny role from the WC, he and MacKinnon were dynamite together.
Stamkos-Tavares-Stone - This line might not get scored on all tournament.
Schiefele-ROR-Point - the reigning Conn Smythe winner and Brayden Point are on the 4th line with Mark Schiefele.
I love Monahan, but he doesn't sniff this team.
Gio-Doughty - They'd be so good together.
Letang-Pietrangelo - Captain of the reigning champs, and a guy with 3 rings himself who's never gotten the national team recognition he deserves - Kris Letang is ####ing awesome.
Reilly-Weber - You might say Weber's too old, but Hockey Canada brings veteran D to this tournament, not noobs. Pronger and Niedermayer were both north of 35 when they played in Vancouver. Rielly adds some mobility to compensate. Really don't think it's an issue though - we're talking about Shea Weber.
Hamilton. Yeah. I said it. I said it and I stand by it. Dougie should be there.
Price - He's Price.
Holtby - best playoff save % in league history. Champion.
Fleury - He's Marc Andre Fleury.
No other country can stand up to us right now. It's virtually impossible. Four #1 lines, made up almost entirely of 1st line centres. Seven 1st pair defensemen. Three Hall of Fame goalies.
...Why can't we have this? Like, you don't wanna do the Olympics, fine. I don't like it, but I understand. But in the absence of that, you need to do a regular World Cup. It needs to be scheduled, it needs to be straightforward. It needs to be in a city that isn't Toronto.
I really don't understand how a 2-week best on best hockey tournament is only a draw in Toronto. Hold it in New York. Chicago. Philadelphia. Boston. Hell, hold it when the Olympics would be on, in an alternate year. Shutter the league for two weeks in February, and put on a show. Everyone's going to get paid, the majority of the league gets two weeks to heal up, and we the public get to watch the best generation of hockey players ever assembled steamroll the rest of the planet.
Is that so much to ask?
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01-08-2020, 01:27 AM
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I still think Monahan is a viable choice as an extra forward. And that's assuming nobody gets hurt, which somebody always does.
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01-08-2020, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
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I don't even know if Monahan cracks the B team. There's also guys like Couture, Giroux, Duchene, Coutourier, Horvat.
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So is Matthews... but I still don’t see Monahan making the team. They’d choose more versatile players, as Canada is just so deep at F
EDIT : apparently I’m one of the first 15 to point this out... do I win a prize??
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01-08-2020, 01:52 AM
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I feel like Gio is one of those players who's not in Team Canada's good books. Always skips the Worlds. I can see him getting a snub in favour of someone who always plays for Team Canada
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01-08-2020, 09:12 AM
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The Athletic just released their Best-on-Best dream teams.
https://theathletic.com/1485997/2019...want-and-need/
Monahan did not make either analyst's (Eric Duhatschek and Dom Luszczyszyn) Canada A team, as a starter or an extra. But he was on the fourth line of the Canada B team. Looking at the names and lines laid out like that, it's hard to argue with the choices. Nobody but a wild-eyed Flames homer is going to choose Monahan over a Stamkos, Point, or Couturier. Even the B team is stacked with guys like Giroux, Couture, Seguin, and Toews.
Giordano made Canada's team. Gaudreau and Tkachuk made Team USA. Lindholm made team Sweden.
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01-08-2020, 09:20 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
The issue I have for Monahan is not that he’s a bad player, but that Canada just has way too much depth at centre. Just off the top of my head you have Crosby, Tavares, McDavid, and Bergeron and that’s probably ignoring 3 or 4 other very solid options.
I don’t think Derek Ryan would even be on the radar either. Not for the US.
Gaudreau is the only sure bet I would say. Tkachuk and Giordano are probably very likely. After that Backlund I’d be 50/50 on, Rittich is unlikely, Brodie is probably a safe no, and Andersson I don’t think has the name recognition or experience quite yet but I could certainly see him making a case in 4 years.
Edit: I forgot about Lindholm. I could see him on Team Sweden for sure.
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I'd say Tkachuk is more than very likely - I think he's a lock. I think Gio wouldn't make it now though, sad to say - he was snubbed before and now it's too late.
Backs is currently tied for 16th in scoring among Swedish forwards, and some of the players behind are only behind because they've been injured (eg Landeskog). Last year he was 11th so even then it would have been a coin toss, given some of the names behind him. But I think he'd get the nod if they really want a defensive centre (though maybe they give that job to Lindy).
Can Reider make Germany's team?
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01-08-2020, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I feel like Gio is one of those players who's not in Team Canada's good books. Always skips the Worlds. I can see him getting a snub in favour of someone who always plays for Team Canada
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If he were RH, maybe, but LH depth is surprisingly sparse.
I still think the best/biggest money maker for a World Cup is 3 on 3. Lowest injury risk...would probably work pretty well in the pre-season as most elite guys just need conditioning.
Team Canada West
Team Ontario
Team Canada East (really QC+NS)
USA East
USA West (Michigan probably west, but could go either way...)
Sweden
Finland
Russia
Czech
Europe
Can design pools so there is almost always a CAN or USA game to broadcast.
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