10-09-2019, 12:28 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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EatBread's not going anywhere if he keeps this up:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1181813615814275072
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10-09-2019, 12:30 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Mangiapane busts his butt on every shift.
Unfortunately, that cannot be said about all of his team-mates so far this season (our captain excluded)
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10-09-2019, 12:34 PM
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#23
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
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Mangiapane was unlucky to not record a point last night. He set up what looked like a sure goal, and it was his stick that caused the turnover to open the scoring for the Flames.
I love this player.
Last edited by Textcritic; 10-09-2019 at 01:53 PM.
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10-09-2019, 12:34 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder
Its funny that his "shot" to play top 6 was 3-4 shifts in the first period and while he did himself no favours and played terribly, it is funny to see how short his leash was.
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When you're down 3-0 less than 4 minutes into the second period to what should be one of the weakest teams in the league, the game plan gets thrown out.
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10-09-2019, 12:35 PM
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#25
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Mangiapane busts his butt on every shift.
Unfortunately, that cannot be said about all of his team-mates so far this season (our captain excluded)
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No love for David Rittich?
He has been everything we had hoped so far.
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10-09-2019, 12:37 PM
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#26
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GOAT!
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I'd like to see them practice with Brodie on RW. Burns went from LW to LW/D to D, and Byfuglien went from D to RW to D. I'm sure there are other examples of players moving from from D to F and vice versa...
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10-09-2019, 12:38 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
No love for David Rittich?
He has been everything we had hoped so far.
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He has been fantastic, no question. I just don't include goalies in those types of conversations.
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10-09-2019, 12:40 PM
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#28
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
I'd like to see them practice with Brodie on RW. Burns went from LW to LW/D to D, and Byfuglien went from D to RW to D. I'm sure there are other examples of players moving from from D to F and vice versa...
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Federov did it too, but there are probably less than a dozen in the past forty years. That should tell you something about how often this works out.
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10-09-2019, 12:49 PM
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#29
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Mangiapane busts his butt on every shift...
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It is really a stark difference from his first turn with the Flames in 2018. I remember thinking at the time that he would probably not amount to becoming a NHL player.
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10-09-2019, 12:50 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Kylington has had a gangbusters start to the year, IMO. He looks poised to take an enormous step forward, and by the end of the year I will not be surprised if the board consensus is 'better to lose Valimaki/Andersson to Seattle than OK'.
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10-09-2019, 12:50 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
It is really a stark difference from his first turn with the Flames in 2018. I remember thinking at the time that he would probably not amount to becoming a NHL player.
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I felt the same way.
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10-09-2019, 12:55 PM
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#32
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
It is really a stark difference from his first turn with the Flames in 2018. I remember thinking at the time that he would probably not amount to becoming a NHL player.
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He looked pretty good (but snakebitten) early last year, and then suddenly looked unable to accomplish anything.
We later found out he had been hiding an injury.
Once he was healthy he seemed to really click, especially with Hathaway and Ryan.
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10-09-2019, 12:55 PM
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#33
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Kylington has had a gangbusters start to the year, IMO. He looks poised to take an enormous step forward, and by the end of the year I will not be surprised if the board consensus is 'better to lose Valimaki/Andersson to Seattle than OK'.
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Hahaha!
No.
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10-09-2019, 12:57 PM
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#34
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
He looked pretty good (but snakebitten) early last year, and then suddenly looked unable to accomplish anything.
We later found out he had been hiding an injury.
Once he was healthy he seemed to really click, especially with Hathaway and Ryan.
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I am not talking about last year. I am talking about his 10-game run in the second half of 2017–18 where he looked small, weak and invisible.
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10-09-2019, 01:09 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Hahaha!
No.
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Valimaki has had two major leg injuries in his career already - it's entirely possible he's not the same after this.
Don't sleep on Kylington. Andersson is not light years better, and the gap is closing every day.
We'll see.
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10-09-2019, 01:11 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Andersson is light years better than Kylington.
I'm pretty comfortable saying that at this point considering I was skeptical last year whether Andersson had the necessary foot speed.
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10-09-2019, 01:13 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Kind of sick of the Bennett toe drag = loss of possession move
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10-09-2019, 01:21 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
In fairness to Bennett, one period is not a trial. The proper thing to do here is give him 10 games or so, and explain to him what needs to change in his game.
He was likely excited at the opportunity, and, in wanting to succeed, ended up doing things that he shouldn't be doing. Good coaching helps push him through that, it doesn't swat him down after a handful of shifts.
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Hasn't this been the issue for years with any player that gets an opportunity to supplant Frolik on that line? It's always been a period here and there, game or two, etc. I know if I was Bennett last night I may have been too amped up knowing that I had to make plays to show my worth wich can lead to poor play. Ideally the coach would go through some film with him explaining what he doesn't want to see and seeing if he can come back with a strong game(s). This is why Frolik always ends up back on that wing as the same will happen to Mangiapane that happened to Neal and Bennett if there's not instant success.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 10-09-2019 at 01:23 PM.
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10-09-2019, 01:24 PM
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#39
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Hasn't this been the issue since day one with Bennett? It's always been a period here and there, game or two, etc. I know if I was Bennett last night I may have been too amped up knowing that I had to make plays to show my worth wich can lead to poor play. Ideally the coach would go through some film with him explaining what he doesn't want to see. This is why Frolik always ends up back on that wing as the same will happen to Mangiapane that happened to Neal and Bennett if there's not instant success.
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But there has been instant success. The points have not yet been there, but Mangiapane has made a big impact on that second line in the time he has spent there through two games. When he was swapped for Bennett last night, the shift was immediate. I suppose one can blame the coaches for a lack of patience with Bennett, but how do they ignore that Mangiapane has taken the opportunity given to him, and turned it into instant results?
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10-09-2019, 01:28 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Federov did it too, but there are probably less than a dozen in the past forty years. That should tell you something about how often this works out.
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Federov is one of the most underrated players of his generation. He was a gamechanger as a centre, and then (when he saw that his footspeed was diminishing) he concentrated on positional play and became a very good defenseman to finish out his career. The number of players who could make a transition like that at such a high level must be in the single digits.
Burns and Byfuglien can't touch what Federov accomplished.
Anyway, that's neither here nor there.
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