[News] UPD: Flames recall Quine. Assign Lazar to Stockton.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Not top 6, bottom 6. Back to back games. Team in a slump and not looking good.

I can't speak for anyone but myself......I'm not saying Lazar is the answer to all the Flames issues, but rather just a shot in the arm perhaps to a struggling club on a back to back. I'm not sure how it would have hurt at all to dress him for that last game. Even if he just played one game, why not?

He's just not good enough, that's why not. The team would be worse with him in the lineup.

You don't give the team a shot in the arm by making the lines worse.

The flames play a high skill uptempo game. They have the fewest hits in the league and are reliant in bottom 6 scoring right now.

The things Lazar brings are things the flames don't need.

Unfortunately for Lazar, that's just the way it is.

I could see lomberg getting the next callup.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by iamca

Really a questionable move by the team.

You assign Lazar to the AHL, he works hard, doesn't pout, plays really well, finds his scoring touch, is a team leader and an alternate captain, makes the AHL All Star team, you call him up, the team struggles, lose 4 straight, score 5 goals, Lazar doesn't draw into the lineup, and you send him back down?

Something doesn't add up in that scenario.

What's the message to the players in the minors?

Really don't understand this...

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Who are you taking out for Lazar? Anyone currently on the Flames could be a top player in the AHL. Its not a charity, its the best league in the world. Lazar was here in case of another injury, it didn't happen. Now he goes back to play games and another guy gets called up to sit in the press box.

A borderline NHLer is not gonna spark an NHL team IMO

You think Lazar has an NHL job next season?

[dammage79]

If any forward should get the next call up it should be Quine. He did nothing but get better the more games he played.

[iamca]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Who are you taking out for Lazar? Anyone currently on the Flames could be a top player in the AHL. Its not a charity, its the best league in the world. Lazar was here in case of another injury, it didn't happen. Now he goes back to play games and another guy gets called up to sit in the press box.

A borderline NHLer is not gonna spark an NHL team IMO

You think Lazar has an NHL job next season?

Would have sat Frolik.

Lazar has improved and he may stick with an NHL team.

Lazar would have been a spark and that's what the team needs.

Keep losing and running that same lineup out there.

Sharks passed the Flames today, but the team is fine and their lineup is lighting it up.

Dube, Quine, Lazar, all playing well and would bring some energy to a stagnant team, but 4 straight losses is not enough to warrant a change in their lineup... got it.

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[Bingo]

A lot of anger from a fan base of a team in the league's top five.

Every team has a dip in a long season, the Flames have been money since November.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by iamca

Would have sat Frolik.

Lazar has improved and he may stick with an NHL team.

Lazar would have been a spark and that's what the team needs.

Keep losing and running that same lineup out there.

Sharks passed the Flames today, but the team is fine and their lineup is lighting it up.

Dube, Quine, Lazar, all playing well and would bring some energy to a stagnant team, but 4 straight losses is not enough to warrant a change in their lineup... got it.

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Who said that...I am saying Lazar isn't the guy

Yeah the Sharks passed the Flames...for first in the West by one point, so they are second in the West.

Yet the "leader" of a bad AHL team will be the spark? I doubt it. Frolik could tear up the AHL too.

Lazar had plenty of chances in Calgary, he doesn't play unless there is an injury.

[Strange Brew]

Flames have given plenty of chances to their AHL callups so I see no issue with potential poor messages to their minor leaguers.

Lazar is pretty far down the list in terms of forward depth so him not playing isn’t much of a surprise. If the question is where to find more scoring finish, Curtis Lazar is not your answer IMO.

[jlh2640]

Get him some minutes but not getting him into one of the games recently is a fail imo. He deserved it and we needed some type of spark. I also want to see him to see if he is any more impactful

[FlamesAddiction]

I can't believe that Peters would keep a player out of the line-up if he thought that player was actually a better option than another.

I have to believe that Peters wasn't impressed enough by Lazar. We sure do like to root for our hard working, nice-guy, fringe players.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I had thought he'd relish an energy role given the opportunity, but as others have pointed out it came down to a waivers eligibility issue.

Stockton is making a late season surge for a playoff spot, and while that's not the part of the bigger picture, it'd probably be good for the Heat.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Bingo

A lot of anger from a fan base of a team in the league's top five.

Every team has a dip in a long season, the Flames have been money since November.

True. But you don’t want your dips happening down the stretch run with your top players playing like hot garbage.

It is a bit myopic to chalk this up to a simple downswing. This team hasnt really passed the eye test for over a month if we’re being honest.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

True. But you don’t want your dips happening down the stretch run with your top players playing like hot garbage.

It is a bit myopic to chalk this up to a simple downswing. This team hasnt really passed the eye test for over a month if we’re being honest.

Would you rather the dip happened in the playoffs??? There is still time to work out the kinks.

All good teams have their slumps during the season. With the exception of Tampa of course.

[Cortez]

Originally Posted by iamca

Really a questionable move by the team.

You assign Lazar to the AHL, he works hard, doesn't pout, plays really well, finds his scoring touch, is a team leader and an alternate captain, makes the AHL All Star team, you call him up, the team struggles, lose 4 straight, score 5 goals, Lazar doesn't draw into the lineup, and you send him back down?

Something doesn't add up in that scenario.

What's the message to the players in the minors?

Really don't understand this...

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I see it the exact opposite way. They rewarded a good AHLer with NHL pay for a few weeks. I’m sure he loved it even if he didn’t draw in the lineup

[gvitaly]

Lazar is on a one way contract, so he is paid exactly the same in both the AHL and NHL this year.

[iamca]

Originally Posted by Cortez

I see it the exact opposite way. They rewarded a good AHLer with NHL pay for a few weeks. I’m sure he loved it even if he didn’t draw in the lineup

Despite the fact that he's on a one way contract, he's played almost 250 games in the NHL already.

The variety of Lazar's repertoire was evident early in his career.
Playing for British Columbia as a 16-year-old during the 2011 Canada Winter Games, Lazar scored 12 goals in six games to break the record set by Steven Stamkos, and compiled 17 points to top the mark set by Sidney Crosby.

To further illustrate Lazar's big-game tendencies, the Salmon Arm, British Columbia, native had a hat trick in the semifinals and another in the final to propel British Columbia to a 7-4 victory against a Quebec team that included Jonathan Drouin.

The Ottawa Senators were impressed enough to select Lazar with their first pick (No. 17) at the 2013 NHL Draft.

Lazar's final season in junior, 2013-2014 with Edmonton of the Western Hockey League, would be memorable as Edmonton reeled off 50 wins to claim the Eastern Conference title. After having been ousted by Portland in a six-game league final the year before, Edmonton gained its revenge on Portland, with the series going the full seven games.

At the Memorial Cup, Edmonton started off with one win in three games, but ran the table in the playoff portion and beat Guelph, the tournament favorite, 6-3 in the final.

Lazar contributed 22 points in 21 postseason games for Edmonton.
Making the Senators straight out of camp the following September, Lazar played for Canada at the 2015 World Junior Championship, with Canada winning the title. Lazar finished with five goals and nine points in seven games.

He competes and brings it every shift, so why call him up if you don't give him an opportunity to prove it on the ice?


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[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by iamca

Despite the fact that he's on a one way contract, he's played almost 250 games in the NHL already.

The variety of Lazar's repertoire was evident early in his career.
Playing for British Columbia as a 16-year-old during the 2011 Canada Winter Games, Lazar scored 12 goals in six games to break the record set by Steven Stamkos, and compiled 17 points to top the mark set by Sidney Crosby.

To further illustrate Lazar's big-game tendencies, the Salmon Arm, British Columbia, native had a hat trick in the semifinals and another in the final to propel British Columbia to a 7-4 victory against a Quebec team that included Jonathan Drouin.

The Ottawa Senators were impressed enough to select Lazar with their first pick (No. 17) at the 2013 NHL Draft.

Lazar's final season in junior, 2013-2014 with Edmonton of the Western Hockey League, would be memorable as Edmonton reeled off 50 wins to claim the Eastern Conference title. After having been ousted by Portland in a six-game league final the year before, Edmonton gained its revenge on Portland, with the series going the full seven games.

At the Memorial Cup, Edmonton started off with one win in three games, but ran the table in the playoff portion and beat Guelph, the tournament favorite, 6-3 in the final.

Lazar contributed 22 points in 21 postseason games for Edmonton.
Making the Senators straight out of camp the following September, Lazar played for Canada at the 2015 World Junior Championship, with Canada winning the title. Lazar finished with five goals and nine points in seven games.

He competes and brings it every shift, so why call him up if you don't give him an opportunity to prove it on the ice?


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If Czarnik hadn't scored 3 Goals in 5 games or whatever then Lazar surely would have drawn in.

I think he should have played in the game against Arizona, but who draws out?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

True. But you don’t want your dips happening down the stretch run with your top players playing like hot garbage.

It is a bit myopic to chalk this up to a simple downswing. This team hasnt really passed the eye test for over a month if we’re being honest.

I'm all over the site pointing out how poorly the top players have played for six weeks, so they're is nothing myopic about pointing out that all teams have swoons. In fact I'd assume it's pretty consistent that said swoons for all teams come when their top players don't play well; so no I don't think Calgary is all that unique.

And I wouldn't say the team hasn't passed the eye test. The top line hasn't, but the bottom six hasn't been this good all season, and a defenseman on the bottom pairing is emerging as a potential break out player.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

If Czarnik hadn't scored 3 Goals in 5 games or whatever then Lazar surely would have drawn in.

I think he should have played in the game against Arizona, but who draws out?

This ..

Lazar entered the fray when both Czarnik and Mangiapane found another gear. That to me is the reason he didn't get a look. Who do you take out?

[sureLoss]

News Update

Calgary Flames @NHLFlames
.@CortexBusiness Transaction Alert: The #Flames have recalled Alan Quine from the @AHLHeat.

Flames will have 2 regular recalls left.

If Quine plays another NHL game or spends 10 more days on the NHL roster he will require waivers to be sent down again.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Bingo

This ..

Lazar entered the fray when both Czarnik and Mangiapane found another gear. That to me is the reason he didn't get a look. Who do you take out?

I think Frolik had a couple really bad games and could have used a sit down again. Especially since he responded well to being scratched or demoted all year.