11-26-2018, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What a surprise that another terrible free agency signing that everyone could see from the day it was inked turned out to be exactly what we thought he was. Will GM's ever learn?
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It's been a minute since the internet has talked about this...
...but I wonder if that's exactly what we're seeing with Nylander.
If it's been anything, I've been hoping that this whole saga demonstrates GM's awareness of how "just $1-2M to land a piece" snowballs
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11-26-2018, 10:51 AM
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#22
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I'm assuming that Weber's returning soon?
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11-26-2018, 10:52 AM
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#23
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
I'm assuming that Weber's returning soon?
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Believe there were reports last week that he might suit up tomorrow night.
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11-26-2018, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
I'm assuming that Weber's returning soon?
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He led the morning practice stretch today. They haven't officially announced it, but he will play tomorrow.
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11-26-2018, 11:04 AM
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What a surprise that another terrible free agency signing that everyone could see from the day it was inked turned out to be exactly what we thought he was. Will GM's ever learn?
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Except people thought this one was relatively good:
https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ghlight=alzner
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Originally Posted by Poe969
That's actually not that bad
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Originally Posted by HappyGilmore
Good move
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Good deal for the Habs. They needed to replace some defenders long term.
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
The panel on NHL radio yesterday thought Alzner would get between 5-6 million. 4.5 is not bad
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And:
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Less money than I expected he would fetch but I believe he's a very average defensman.
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11-26-2018, 11:09 AM
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#26
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Lucic won't bounce back because he has the same flaw Alzner has: He's slow, and he does nothing well.
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Definitely agree, I don't see Lucic bouncing back at all. But the sourness if he somehow did on another team...
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11-26-2018, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
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Wired post. Are you trying to make it look like I was endorsing it?  We were hearing $5 million a season being thrown around so they got him for less. I just went through that thread and I’m really not seeing much endorsement from many outside of a couple of posters.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 11-26-2018 at 12:26 PM.
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11-26-2018, 12:33 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Didn't think Alzner would turn out this bad but as one person alluded to, he is real slow and also really does nothing well at all, just like Lucic. Alzner has fallen off the cliff.
Could see him getting bought out and heading to the KHL next year or even the DEL in Germany.
Last edited by Karl; 11-26-2018 at 01:06 PM.
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11-26-2018, 01:03 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What a surprise that another terrible free agency signing that everyone could see from the day it was inked turned out to be exactly what we thought he was. Will GM's ever learn?
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Yeah, I remember when that deal was signed there was a fairly communal 'awkward collar tug.'
I mean, Alzner isnt garbage, hes a useful player, but the Habs already had Jeff Petry doing basically the same job only better.
Alzner offered no dynamism to the roster and it was at minimum about $1.5M too much.
I dont know what they were thinking on that one. The fact is though that if a team needs a fairly solid shut-down guy for 15-20 minutes a night hes a good pickup but they'd need the cap space.
His hit is really bad for what he brings to the table, knock that down and hes a good player, he just will never be value for money on this contract and, despite his claims of wanting to win, he'd be a tough contract to shoehorn in to a winning team for what he brings.
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11-26-2018, 01:09 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, I remember when that deal was signed there was a fairly communal 'awkward collar tug.'
I mean, Alzner isnt garbage, hes a useful player, but the Habs already had Jeff Petry doing basically the same job only better.
Alzner offered no dynamism to the roster and it was at minimum about $1.5M too much.
I dont know what they were thinking on that one. The fact is though that if a team needs a fairly solid shut-down guy for 15-20 minutes a night hes a good pickup but they'd need the cap space.
His hit is really bad for what he brings to the table, knock that down and hes a good player, he just will never be value for money on this contract and, despite his claims of wanting to win, he'd be a tough contract to shoehorn in to a winning team for what he brings.
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Actually he is garbage.
He can't skate worth a lick and can't do anything else remotely well to make up for that. The speed of the NHL game has passed Alzner by.
He is not good at any price.
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11-26-2018, 01:48 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
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Yup, I was one of those who was completely wrong about Alzner, so I'll own it. However, it was true that they simply needed some veteran defensemen as they had lost 3 regulars from the previous year. They almost had to sign Alzner, even if the risk of his game falling off was real. It's just shocking how bad it fell off so quickly. This is a pretty unforgiving league when it comes to anyone losing a step these days. The margin for error is razor thin.
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11-26-2018, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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yeah, when Jordie Benn and a bunch of scrubs pass you on the depth chart, you aren't all that good.
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11-26-2018, 07:09 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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I wanted him too but not anywhere near that price
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11-26-2018, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Originally Posted by habernac
yeah, when Jordie Benn and a bunch of scrubs pass you on the depth chart, you aren't all that good.
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Petry Benn Schlemko lol
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11-26-2018, 08:24 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by jlh2640
Petry Benn Schlemko lol
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11-26-2018, 08:57 PM
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#36
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Man, he was born in 1988 so he is 30. Have his skills deteriorated that much or is he that slow?
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11-27-2018, 12:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sweden
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I really don't buy the falling off a cliff theory. Alzner is what he's always been, a pretty slow, steady d-man. Looking at his metrics from previous seasons compared to last year I'd say that he came exactly as advertised when Bergevin signed him. I suppose he got lost in the shuffle when the Habs changed up their game plan and their roster this year, but it's not like that is on Alzner. If Bergevin had ever had a vision and a long term game plan maybe he wouldn't have put himself and the player in this kind of situation. Anyway, I don't think it's fair to Alzner to assume this is on him falling off a cliff. Slow, defensive d-men don't do that in the way speedy forwards do, especially not at 30 years of age.
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11-27-2018, 11:09 AM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
He led the morning practice stretch today. They haven't officially announced it, but he will play tomorrow.
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They call that Cold Yoga, right?
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11-27-2018, 11:31 AM
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#39
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Who is the highest paid AHL player at the moment?
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11-27-2018, 11:32 AM
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#40
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Lucic
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